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mikej (Mikej)
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With midwest/Great Lakes winters what they are here moorage is the primary problem. And wooden boats don't do well for long out of the water.

Way back when the Salmon wars were heating up I was pricing smaller commercial boats, you could get a 35' respectable boat for $3,500 but that was many years ago, and the waiting list usually ran at least a year for a mooring, well over 3-5 years if you wanted a liv-a-board slip.

Oh well, maybe once I'm done with my midwest experience I'll head back to a coastal waterway. Or maybe I'll buy a local boat, strap the Buell below deck, and circumnavigate my way back west.

Paul, I'll bet you've got a few seal stories to tell, but those are probably best left for a different venue.

I still sometimes kick myself for not getting one Foss tug I looked at.
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Paul Starkweather (Snail)
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike J., the california sea lions have proliferated to the extent that they are taking over entire sections of marine docks in CA.

Protected by the Fed. Marine Mammal Protection Act they have completly over run their natural rearing areas and are crowding right into the harbors.

The sealions are taking a tremendous toll on the salmon stocks. Some of the salmon stocks are listed as threatened and/or endangered.

Sealions are very agressive, dangerous predators. Never approach one.

I'm beginning to feel like I'm taking advantage of this board and I don't like the feeling. If anyone resents my pics and stories please speak up. I enjoy sharing but don't want to be arrogant.

Paul
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Jeff Toney (Jst)
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Paul,
I for one enjoy reading about your exploits in the Northwest. Being in Florida, I rarely get a view of that side of the country.
Keep it up!
JT
'99 Em Too
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Jasonl (Jasonl)
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Come on Snail! keep'em coming! It's cool reading and seeing pics like this. Who knew seals were mean as pitbulls in heat! I figured they ate the fish you threw to them and jumped through hoops!
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mikej (Mikej)
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Deputy Fife or Blake will let you know when you've reached the limits Paul.

When the Sea Lions start invading Malibu beach homes is when something will be done about it.
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Paul Starkweather (Snail)
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You'll get a kick out of this story.

At the Ballard locks near Seattle WA the sealions were feasting on the returning salmon when the salmon were confined in the fish ladder. So the 'lions were trapped, loaded on a boat and taken out to sea for approx. 100 miles from their previous home, tagged and released.

The tagged sealions were back at the locks eating salmon before the boat made it back to harbor.

Paul
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Arvel L. Williams (S2no1)
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Paul,

What size boats are we talking about for 20k?

Arvel
P.S. I've forgotten everything I knew about boats.
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Paul Starkweather (Snail)
Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2000 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Arvel, 30'-60', but don't expect to find much quality. Typically these boats are pretty far along requiring a lot of work and money to make them sea worthy.

Get a copy of National Fisherman, Fishermans News, and Boats and Harbors.

Don't forget, a boat is a hole in the water into which one pours money.

Paul
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Arvel L. Williams (S2no1)
Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2000 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Paul,

I think the same could be paraphrased for Buells, although they are more fun.

Arvel
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MikeyP (Mikeyp)
Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What Vik does when the Buell is in the shop...
eeek!
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