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Nevco1
| Posted on Friday, October 17, 2003 - 03:16 pm: |
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Joe...God, my heart goes out to you. Hope you have a good attorney. Don't know what the laws are here in Wisconsin, but you could be in for a real uphill battle. You are in my prayers. Post the bike everywhere you can, including the independent dealers and MC accessory companies like Torque Center. Don't know how good the MJS is but I do know it is expensive. Good luck and God bless, Bill |
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Nevco1
| Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 12:48 pm: |
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Hey Brew City... Check out the S.E.W.E.R. thread in StormFronts. We are starting to get some interest and have a tentative meeting/ride scheduled for next weekend. Read the posts, and respond which day would be best for you. Then during the week, jot down your thoughts on the venture and bring them with you to the ride. Oh yeah, and don't forget to bring a friend regardless of brand. All we ask is that they be good safe riders and be Buell Tolerant since even Buell admits we can't keep up in the straights. LMAO |
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Dynarider
| Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 04:43 pm: |
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Mom?.....Dad?.....Im home! Took a little trip south down to Ukes but Im back now![:D](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/biggrin2.gif) |
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Nevco1
| Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 04:53 pm: |
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Damn Ward, you said if we moved while he was out the Beave' wouldn't find us! LMAO...Welcome back Dyna. Hope you wiped your feet before you came in the door. Don't want any mud on the good carpet. |
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Koz5150
| Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 11:42 pm: |
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Although many of you may have thought I was MIA, I have been lurking around this website about 3 or four times a week. As much as I appreciate being the spring chicken of the group (30 years young) I can't be an officer. I let my BRAG membership run out as $40 seemed a bit high for a bi-monthly mag that was only a few pages. I also was not able to do a single group ride except for the vacation I took during the 20th. Now if anyone ever needs a hand and I am available give me a call, but I don't think I can be a formal BCB member. That however will not prevent me from running battle trax next year and picking on Dyna when I get the chance.... ha ha ha |
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Dynarider
| Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 11:50 pm: |
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Koz, i dont formally belong to brag either. I do belong to HOG & that allows you to join a Brag chapter. I too didnt see what I got for my $40 a year besides a magazine that i can pick up for free at the dealer. Just exactly what do we get from Brag for $40 a year? Hell we cant even get the lousy 10% discount on parts. And didnt anyone tell you to respect your elders? LOL |
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Mikej
| Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 08:41 am: |
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How much is H.O.G. membership? And why can't we get a dual/subscription membership and get both publications? Reciprocity is often lost in the actual act of receiving it. Anyway, how much are the HOG dues? I'm about to flip at least partially if not fully. I'd check their web site but that old reciprocity deal says I'm expired for HOG even though I'm current for BRAG, somehow the numbers got linked and I got binned in the process on their web site. |
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Nevco1
| Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 09:48 am: |
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Mike...I too am joining National HOG and dropping National BRAG. The only reason to keep BRAG is the roadside assistance program on the Buell and I have been told (but will have to check it out with HOG) that HOG will pick up either my Buell or my Harley if I register them both. In the event this is a bad assumption, I will keep National BRAG until I sell the Buell. Will let you know how it turns out. Additionally, at Hal's there is no benefit to having a BRAG (National or Local Membership). The 10% discount only applies to members of their KMC HOG Chapter. However, the nice thing is I can get parts for the Buell with the KMC membership. Also, some of the other dealers in town give a discount for National HOG members and Milwaukee HD/BMC even gave me a discount on HD merchandise with my National BRAG card. Needless to say, I spent a lot of money at MKE HD/BMC that weekend. edited by Nevco1 on October 20, 2003 |
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Mikej
| Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 10:05 am: |
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If HOG supposedly honors (accepts) BRAG membership for admission to HOG events, does BRAG accept/honor HOG membership for admission to BRAG events? For example, is a HOG-card carrying Buell-too owner able to sign up for BRAG events such as past Homecomings? Just curious and fleshing (fletching?) this out. |
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Nevco1
| Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 10:10 am: |
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Yep, and you can even join a HOG Chapter with a BRAG membership. Then again, that is like bringing a knife to a gun fight! |
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Mikej
| Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 10:33 am: |
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I've known a few folks who brought knives to gun fights. They're still here, moreso than their opponents, but that is a story for another place and time perhaps, me thinks. Anyway, will have to see when the card expires and see what appears in year-end rummages and such and what sorts of horse-trades happen (like mysterious FXRS's rumored to exist and such). S'all right, s'all fun. As long as the handlebars stay off the pavement that is. Coffee time, gotta go.
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Nevco1
| Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 01:42 pm: |
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Koz...Sorry to read about your situation. You will sincerely be missed. If you would take a moment, I would like for you to post information such as when you are available for meetings and to ride. I know your work and church schedule conflicted with a number of Brew City functions and am curious as to what may or may not work for you and others in Brew City. Anyone else in Brew City with similar limitations, please do not hesitate posting your info as well. Perhaps this will provide next years officers with ideas to make the club functions more accessible to its membership. FYI, Hal's KMC HOG Chapter has two meetings each month. The usual evening meeting followed by a morning meeting for the 2nd and 3rd shift workers that can't make the other. Granted we may not be big enough to do that, but perhaps another day, time or location may be better for the majority. Even without a change, email updates concerning the club would probably suffice and allow input from those that can't attend. Just some questions and a quest for knowledge from a never-so-humble old guy that doesn't want to see Brew City fade away into the sunset. |
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Blastin
| Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 04:51 pm: |
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Geeezz I go away for a week and we're all saying "Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?" We'll get things figured out. So did everyone enjoy last weeks weather? I did, but yet I didn't. I was in a cage all friggin' week, but I did have a very lovely co-pilot!! One piece of advise:Watch out for the leaves. No not on the trees, but ON the road!!! OK all it's time for another friendly get together. Date: FRIDAY October 31st. Place: Leveille's Haunted Mansion Time: 6:00p.m. or after dark Activities: -Fire in the back yard with leaded and no lead libations(beverages for you unedumakated folk) and maybe something to snack on. -lots of story swapping -maybe a few scary surprises Everyone is welcome to attend and bring along friends. Jerry
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Daves
| Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 08:25 pm: |
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They give a HOG discount to members but not a BRAG discount to members? That is just plain wrong! Heck, just order the stuff from me then. No tax,10% discount just a few bucks shipping. Ride to the edge! Dave Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center) |
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Dynarider
| Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 08:37 pm: |
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Dave, I have asked our interim director to inquire as to why it is that way. So far no answer. Makes no damn sense to me at all. Parts is parts & money is money. |
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Koz5150
| Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 12:52 am: |
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Nevco1 It's not like I will be dead, I'll still be around. I think there is a decent opportunity for BCB but the right leader isn't there. I also think there are many people like you or Lake who could do a great job (well except Lake moved north) but just don't have the proper time to dedicate to it. It's hard to build a club and this one really needs a lot of work. Being recognized by the dealership is top priority. If the HOG guys get the discount so should the BRAG members. Everything else they have done has been outstanding. They did a great job hosting the 20th on that Wednesday morning. Membership is completely up to the club. The current members should be down at every two wheel Tuesday talking to everyone with a Buell. Leave flyers for the club on Buells when they see one, and just be a presence everywhere. The club should have a tent set up at every one of Hal's bike shows and open house parties. They also should be at every HOG meeting to stay involved as subculture of the HOG chapter. This doesn't mean every member needs to be at every event, but at least someone should be advertising. There is no reason you shouldn't have a 60 member base in the Milwaukee metro area. As far as rides go Sunday morning is a horrible time. I can't believe that I am the only guy that goes to church. If you did Saturday rides and maybe even a Friday night or two gathering that would be cool. The ride should either start or finnish at the dealership while it is open. Let the employees and the ownership come to expect seeing the Buells at the dealership as a pressence. All battletrax events should be advertised to every Buell owner on Hal's list of Buell customers. One big event would be good too. An overnighter that is well planned out. It should offer a chase vehicle with a trailer and the ability to move peoples luggage and equipment. Finally the club neeeds to have it's core membership be proactive. I remember when we were deciding on a logo that everyone was supposed to bring in some artwork or ideas. One month later at the next meeting there was one other idea as opposed to the 5 pages I brought in. Not everone is an artist, but you gotta pitch in where you can. We registered our webname many months ago and still have no website. If you want pictures of the club you gotta bring the camera to the events. One thing a Buell club should have is a group tech day. Have all the bikes over to someones house to do wheel baring checks, exhaust checks, tire presure, whatever. Not all Buell riders own the manual to their bike, but should would be interested in having the more experienced members of the group give the bike a once over every so often. Small clubs need proactive members to grow and become better. Anyway, that would be a few of my ideas to help out BCB. Like I said though, I like everyone else don't have the time to do all of that stuff. But if you want a good club you got to put in a good amount of time. |
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Dynarider
| Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 04:10 am: |
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Being recognized by the dealership is top priority. If the HOG guys get the discount so should the BRAG members. Agreed 110%. As far as rides go Sunday morning is a horrible time. I can't believe that I am the only guy that goes to church. If you did Saturday rides and maybe even a Friday night or two gathering that would be cool. Not a big fan of sunday mornings myself. I would also like a ride during the week for folks who might work a swing shift or have to work weekends. All battletrax events should be advertised to every Buell owner on Hal's list of Buell customers. Good luck getting a copy of that. We registered our webname many months ago and still have no website. Already been mentioned many times but I guess Tom is busy? Besides I really dont know how much the website would help. A lot of folks still dont have computers, dont know about these boards & some simply dont care about it. Mass mailings to all Buell owners on that unavailable list about the club & what we are doing would help. Maybe one of the problems is that the average Buell owner is more of a lone wolf type rider who marches to the beat of a different drum & doesnt require or even want the same type of atmosphere that exists with a Brag or even a HOG type function? Maybe Brag is destined to always be small time? Hell i dont know. Personally I think in the area we live in & with the amount of bikes..foreign & domestic...that a club along the lines of the one Dennis suggested & Bill is pushing would work great. It has a potentially huge target audience instead of only 10-15 folks. I dont know about anyone else, but I can ride all day & hit 7-8 counties & might see 1 or 2 Buells. |
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Koz5150
| Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 05:48 am: |
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Personally I am not big on club rides. Specially on Testosterone enhancement bikes like Buells, but I vision the BRAG chapter as being more of a support and opportunity type club. I really think a tech day every month or two would be great. I know the Buell customer list would be hard to come by, but you can purchase a listing from the state that lists every Buell owner in Wisconsin. What about making sure that you have a Buell hospitality tent at some of the bike gatherings like Tomahawk and Crandon. It's all about getting attention and making the members feel special. When people go to a Bike rally and see the BCB hospitality tent they get curious. The thing is you have to offer the members a reason to be part of the club. You can ride without being in a club, it's all the other stuff that makes people join and be active in a good club. Cool T-shirts, fun social events, and bike knowledge support is all required to keep people interested. Also meetings should have a purpose and be somewhat entertaining. Have a 10-15 minute informative section that teaches the group something they didn't know about their bike. |
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Bomber
| Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 08:29 am: |
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I agree with all the point raised on this thread (and others) . . . one thing I seldom hear discussed is the following What, exactly, are the desires you wish to have fulfilled by your association with BRAG, either national or local chapter. Until that question is asked and answered, I think, the conversation, while spirited and enjoyable, will likely not yeild the hoped for results . . . . just my flatlander $0.02 worth |
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Mikej
| Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 08:46 am: |
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The Sunday scheduling of rides was somewhat due to Rick's work schedule. Rick is off on new adventures and perhaps the "ride day" should be rescheduled, this would be a good topic for discussion at a meeting. Here at work there are a couple of HOG members who talk HOG stuff, a little bike stuff, but mostly their talk centers around socializing stuff. Birthday parties, reunions, annual feeds and dinners, memorial rides, select memorial rides (where only a few people knew the person and they want to keep the ride smaller), and so forth. The bikes are what unites them, but at times the bikes seem to be secondary to their activities, the rides seem to also be secondary to their enjoying the day together during the rides and sharing the scenery together. More like a family than a club somehow. I don't know if this adds anything to the discussion, and it's starting to sound like an ethnographic study or observation so I'll stop with that. And I'll ask this again, and maybe I'll pay attention this time if it's already been answered, has a Hal's representative been assigned to the club yet? Perhaps some place to meet other than Hal's would be good if a new liason hasn't been assigned. I know that Hal's has been very supportive in the past and likes to help when and where they can. And I know this will get me royally flamed but, well, never mind, I'll save that thought for another time. Oh well, I'm off to try and crash the computer again. Major software upgrades and infrastructure rebuilds are always fun to bug out.
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