| Author | Message | ||
     Northernyankee |
Way to go guys!! http://www.webbikeworld.com/books/25-years-of-buel l.htm | ||
| Rasta_dog |
"Where they're going with the Ulysses is also beyond me; of all the things to do, the adventure-touring concept just doesn't seem to fit with the Buell image." From the stories & photos the Bad Web Ulysses owners have posted here, the answer to where Buell is going with the Ulysses is... ANYWHERE!  | ||
| Hughlysses |
Well, I'd say that's a mixed review. From what they say, it sounds like Court is still saying "remind me to tell you sometime...." in the book!  | ||
| Northernyankee |
Yeah he did have some negative things to say but on the whole I would say it was a positive review. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Not much of this is addressed in 25 Years of Buell, which I think is too bad, and may be an indication that the people who wrote the book might just be a little too close to the Buell/HD family to really tell it like it is. There is, however, a little too much Buell hero worship in the first chapter," While the reviewer may have a valid point I believe he misses the point entirely. It's a tribute book - not a tell-all or unauthorized bibliography. Where they're going with the Ulysses is also beyond me; of all the things to do, the adventure-touring concept just doesn't seem to fit with the Buell image. What an odd thing to say. Does the Hypermotard or the Multistrada fit with Ducati's image? Why must a manufacturer be so narrowly confined | ||
| Greenlantern |
Where they're going with the Ulysses is also beyond me; of all the things to do, the adventure-touring concept just doesn't seem to fit with the Buell image. But wait..... here is the paragraph that preceded it. The book doesn't address the future of Buell, either with fact or conjecture, which is also too bad. I'm not sure Buell is headed, and the market for the "bare knuckle brawler" streetbike style must be at the saturation point. Will we see "real" sport-tourers, or how about some type of half-Harley/half-Buell futuristic-retro take on, say, the V-Max? uhhhh....huh? | ||
| Wardan123 |
25 Years of Buell has some nice color photographs and a short summary at the end covering the newer models. I learned a lot about Buell history, but I still get the feeling that there's probably more to tell than this particular pair of authors is letting on. Sequel?... Part 2?... Court?... Dave?... | ||
| Midknyte |
By the way, I distinctly recall reading about Erik Buell once saying that he'd never have a water-cooled engine in one of his bikes -- which I thought was a dumb statement at the time, so I won't hold him to it! An amusing statement that gets tossed about. When I asked him, he gave the perfect noncommittal answer that water cooling was not needed to meet EPA requirements. It's pretty obvious that water cooled engines would arrive some day even if it were only to satisfy the market. Ya gotta build what people will buy... | ||
| Elvis |
I'm curious how that urban legend about Erik not wanting water-cooling got started. The closest thing I remember ever seeing was an interview around the time of the first XB9R in which he talked about the advantages of air-cooled engines: simpler, lighter, less maintenance etc. and ended by saying they probably would offer both types at some point . . . but there was no immediate or urgent need for water-cooling. . . . and part of the reason I know this so well is I've always wanted a water-cooled (or at least very high performance) engine. I don't know how that got twisted into the idea that he would never use water-cooling, but I've seen people mention it more than once. I defy anyone here to actually find a statement from Erik Buell saying that he would never have a water-cooled engine. | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
Hasn't Court already mentioned that there will be another book? I think he compiled more than he could fit into the first one. | ||
| Greenlantern |
 IT'S A COOKBOOK! | ||
| Jaimec |
The closest that I can remember is Erik saying you would NEVER see the Revolution engine in a Buell. Maybe that somehow got twisted into "never seeing a water-cooled engine?" | ||
| Teddagreek |
They Kinda of Busted on you Court.... | ||
| Court |
>>>The biggest question remains unanswered though -- what in the world does Harley-Davidson get out of the relationship with Buell? I thought it was a nice review. The guy was honest and shared his opinion. I'm not totally in disagreement with on several points. The purpose of this book was primarily to celebrate 25 Years of Buell (the title may have hinted at that) and I'd sure concur that there is plenty of material remaining. Frankly, Dave and I have enough stuff that was cut to do two more books and I can see another to address just (as in no pictures at all) the "Buell Business Model". Buell has brought MUCH to Harley-Davidson. Court P.S. - In my sunset years no one is capable of "busting on me". Frankly I welcome all opinions and if what I'd been seeking was the blind, across the board approval of the masses I'd have run for President touting nothing but "Change" absent details. | ||
| Court |
By the way . . . if any of the reviewers get really nasty they'll quickly learn they are dealing with two seasoned "bikers". Dave and I . . . sure others have tried it . . have raised to an art form a scheme whereby I start talking . . . lure them into my verbal tractor beam while the white haired Mr. Gess kneels down on all four behind them and I push them over. To the uninitiated it may seem childish . . . and frankly the playground version of this is ho-hum . . .we prefer to do it on the deck of the tower at Daytona. When it comes to revenge . . . well Author Gess put is most accurately . . . it's all about "location, location, location". We're normally very nice guys.  | ||
| S2tbolt |
Consider the source. Those guys only gave a "two flaming helmet" rating to the "Twist of the Wrist" books too...
I'll let the money I spend on books show my rating system  |
