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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It looks like I'm going to get wet on Saturday, the first race of the season for me. BUMMER!

I have a set of Corsa III to put on the bike but no $$ for a set of rains.
Any tips on keeping it on 2 wheels would be appreciated.


FYI track location is Nelson Legdes/Warren Ohio.
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Teeps
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Keep the bike perpendicular to the track surface at all times. Let your sphincter be your guide.
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let the Umbrella Girl ride bitch.
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Igneroid
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get the camera out and WATCH the race....
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Kyrocket
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Put these two out in front...





in addition to the umbrella girl.


Sorry, I have to be a smartass because I have no formal racing experience to enlighten anyone with.
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Jramsey
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ride like you have a martini on the gas cap and trying not to spill any of it.

Being smooth is what its all about wet or dry.

(Message edited by J.ramsey on May 29, 2008)
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

when riding in the rain, SLOW-DOWN!!! lol

just joking!
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Barker
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rain race tires, or bring your big set of balls.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If its raining and cold, I may have shrinkage.....
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get a set of knobbies and race the infield ?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can pick up a set of Michelin Rains for 300 bucks. I just hate to spend the $$
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get in touch with Tim Ivanoff (Smoke). The guy is insane smooth and fast in wet conditions. He's dropped me twice (once on his S1 and last time on his 1125R) in the wet when I slightly bobbled in the corners and couldn't reel him back in during our annual post MB weekend rain rides.

I thought he always waved me by in the dry because I was faster than he was, but as it turns out, it's because he has more sense than I do. His ability in the wet is phenomenal and I think that's a good indication of skill level.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anybody ever use the Avon Xtreme Rain tire?
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

spend the $$ on the race rains. They'll last for years. Trust me.
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Going slow enough not to wreck is a good idea. Pull a plug to keep it from spinning out from under you on corners. In the "old" days they would take a 1/4" drill bit, get it very sharp and flat on the bit, use a thick build up of tape for a depth gage and drill about twenty to thirty little "suction cup" holes in the tread areas.

You could adjust the throttle to open slower(build in a little slack).

And you could just ride like you normally do. That should be slow enough!














Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
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Regkittrelle
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ride like you normally do, but do it one gear higher.

This simple advice was given to me years ago by a very successful pro. It proved to be very effective... including at the green flag.
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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reg took the word outta my post (by which i mean, before i had a chance to type it)- don't worry about reducing your angle of inclination, etc., such departures from your norm will only jam up your melon and lead to a yard sale.
The best addendum I could attach to reg's post is, simply, not to avoid sliding, but, rather, to embrace it.
Teach yourself how to successfully throttle-steer, get to know your machine's parameters and learn to love the drift.
Coming from a childhood fulla MX racing, i can attest to the value of embracing slide, i when streetriding.

(Message edited by tramp on May 30, 2008)
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what ever you do, keep the rubber down and good luck this weekend mark.
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Jimduncan69
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

don't forget your galoshes!
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Hammer71
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tramp has a good grasp on this topic. When I first met him it was a literal downpour and here we are cruising at 80 mph, not so bad most would say, until you noticed that he was on slicks with the chords peeking through.
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Hammer71
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ahhh those poozies... Afraid of a little rain
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Us_uly
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At least it will be light out. Lots of good advise here. Stay smooth, learn to control your drift and don't chase the crazy guy that will wipe out. Hope to make it over. Good Luck!
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I picked up a set of Michelin Rains on my way home.
Now I will just let everyone else put their bike in the yard sale and I will roll on by..... yeah thats the ticket!
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Mr_gto
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just be smooth on/off the throttle/brake. You can still ride fast in the rain just have to use more finesse. I think its pretty fun to ride on the track when it is wet. If you can go fast in the rain think what you can do when it is dry!
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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you, hammer- I will never
EVER
forget that old German guy.
he kicked ass.
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Jramsey
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Evidently none of you youngsters ever got to meet let alone race against Gary Nixon or Dick "Bugsy" Man.
Either one today at age 66 and 74 could turn quicker laps in the rain than any "track bike rider" today could even think about in the dry.
Seems a lot of advice from people who have never raced anything other than stop light to .......
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Mr_gto
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jramsey, Next time you are around Tennessee let me know and we will get together and you can show me how good you think you are in the rain. I would love to learn from you wealth of knowledge.
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Tom_b
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jramsey, I would really love to meet you! I would love to talk shop. still waiting to hear about the cassoday run. I need to get some advice about track racing as i'm going to hallet for track days. Since the weather has been so touchy i hope to get some tips on the rain racing thing. I hope the rainy weather won't keep us from meeting in cassoday soon, Let me know in the storm front section under wichita, ks riders
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 05:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jramsey-
I raced flat track and mx from age 10 to age 17, and I had Al Snoop and Jimmy Weinert as coach/mentors. My dad used to take us to watch gary Nixon hot-footing his Trumpets at many fine ovals...he was my goddam idol, more so than Lawill et al.
I've laid out the training regimen we had to practice each day- i'm sure those posts are still somewhere on this board.
Dad made my brother and I do 10 minutes with no front brake, then 10 with no rear, and 10 with no brakes at all, before allowing us to head out with brakes, again; of course, on our flat trackers, we hadn't the luxury of two brakes, anyway.
Your post is pretty presumptuous, maybe you should ask before you preach, next time.
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Hammer71
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 06:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seems a lot of advice from people who have never raced anything other than stop light to .......

Evidently your wrinkled old ass hasn't been on this board long enough to realize that most here have a vast amount of experience both on and off the track and offer both tongue in cheek as well a serious advice, which by the way I didn't see in your post.

Maybe you should have some facts before you make assumtions.
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