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Joenuclear
Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I installed a set of Iain Palmer's windshield brackets Friday. It took about an hour start to finish including rounding up the tools and locktite.

Saturday I rode from Arkansas to Wisconsin a distance of 934 miles.

I rode at an indicated 85 mph for almost all of the trip. St. Louis and Milwaukee were a little slower.

The change in pressure on my chest was dramatic. I was less inclined to hold the throttle tightly and my neck and shoulders didn't get sore as they have done on shorter trips.

MPG worked out to 39.455 with the last 4 hours quartering into a nasty gusting headwind. The bike and its luggage were fully loaded.

All was not perfect, when caught behind a semi passing another semi I could feel a slight wind induced head shake. Not enough to alter my line but noticeable. It went away if I backed off and got a little over a full semi-trailer length behind the lead truck.

I'm 6' tall and set the bracket at full forward, full height. I may lean it back toward me 1 notch to see it it helps around trucks.

Bottom line, I'd buy another one. Iain was a pleasure to work with and I received the brackets in less than a week from England. It appears the the new universal language is PayPal.
[Iain, If you read this post, whats up with the metric fasteners? Here in the states we're aware that metric stuff is a french plot.]
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Fubar
Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have also found mine to be terrific. I too noticed a bit more high-speed (over 90 mph) buffeting, but at normal speeds it is great.

I just did a weeks ride battling very ugly winds and a fair amount of temperature variability. The adjustability of the brackets is great. In hot weather (>90), I adjusted it to point back a bit more. This allowed great ventilation of jacket and helmet. In colder temps (<32), the up-and-away position worked great and kept me comfortable-ish. The change takes a couple minutes with the supplied common tools.

Highly recommended.
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Strada
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guys, many thanks for the feedback and positive comments. Pictures would be appreciated.
One other tip I would offer is to tilt the handlebar back a couple of inches which I found helped with the comfort and wind noise and gave a more natural prone position for higher speed riding.
The kit continues to be very popular (especially in the States) and has helped many riders. I'm expecting alot of XT owners to come my way!
Sorry about the Metric fasteners but they're bar far the most cost effective over here and imperial ones are not readily available in the size and form I need.
More pictures are here if anyone else is interested.
http://s251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Palmer-Br acket/
Cheers for now
Iain
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Galloper
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 02:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love metric
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Pso
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it would be great if we could consolidate all the comments on these brackets into one place so we would all be able to share the settings that we use. I have a set and rode for the last four days and had them set at full back and one hole elevated. It worked but alot of head wind plus speeds in excess of 60MPH produced loud helmet noise. Planning on moving them forward and hold same height. I like them and I am looking for and experimenting with a good setting for hiway and then another for the back curving roads. I am 6' even with a 32" inseam
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Iugradmark
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PSO,

I think your idea on maintaining a settings list is a great idea. Perhaps a table or list with how tall the reviewer is and inseam like you provided.

BTW, let me know how your efforts go moving forward.
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Sanjuro
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I’ll chime in here and add to the well deserved praise for Ian and his brackets. Good design, good quality and it works great.

Ian was great to deal with. Courteous, responsive and just overall very willing to help out as a fellow proud Uly owner. Before I sound too much like an Ebayer leaving a positive feedback, I’ll just say that I’m glad that I pulled the trigger on this one.

It’s made my highway riding that much more relaxing and I can hear my tunes better.
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Sanjuro
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I’ve added some pictures of the brackets here. There are some other pictures of my new luggage that I finished installing last night as well. http://www.flickr.com/photos/motorcycles/
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Strada
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 02:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stop it (many thanks though !!!)
Anyway, a few factors to consider are:
* Rider height
* In-seam
* Seat height
* Riding Style
* Type of riding (Highway, twisty, etc)
* Climate (hot/cold/rainy/windy)
* Handlebar setting (distance from cowl)
* Helmet type.
* Screen type (Bailey, ZG, Buell tall/short)
* Screen settings (comments on buffeting, Wind noise, wind protection, side winds, etc)
* Any accessories (extra lip, etc...)

Cheers for now
Iain
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Joenuclear
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 07:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

* Rider height- 6' with a long torso
* In-seam- 32"
* Seat height- stock XB12XT set for 230 lbs
* Riding Style- semi aggressive
* Type of riding (Highway, twisty, etc)- yes
* Climate (hot/cold/rainy/windy)- yes
* Handlebar setting (distance from cowl)- on 2' Rox Risers vertically plumb
* Helmet type. Aria Corsair and XD [both noisy]
* Screen type (Bailey, ZG, Buell tall/short)-Stock XT, tall Buell
* Screen settings (comments on buffeting, Wind noise, wind protection, side winds,etc)- presently set at highest and most forward.
* Any accessories (extra lip, etc...)- none
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Dynasport
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone put a finish of any type on their brackets? If they have I'd love to see photos of them.

Sanjuro, thanks for the photos. I bet the brackets in black would look great on your bike.
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Strada
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tried a normal automotive spray paint and they look great but doesn't take too kindly to loads of adjusting or knocks (i.e. accidental chipping like when the spanner slips, etc...)
My setup is:
* 6' Tall
* 32.5" inseam
* 06MY low seat
* smooth but fast. Slightly bent elbows, leaning forward slightly. For fast runs, my helmet peak nearly touches top of screen.
* Good mix of faster open roads - averaging 60/70 mph.
* Typical UK climate but mainly cold and damp (so far).
* Bar dimension tbe.
* Arai Tour-X
* Buell tall screen
* Highest setting, middle notch.
* No accessories.
Additional notes: If I lift my head up about 2/3", I just start to get wind noise. Can feel good wind deflection over entire chest and 'lid (using my hand to feel the air flow).
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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Stradas are "au naturale", naked and unashamed stainless steel and that's how they are staying!
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Fubar
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

* Rider height- 6'3"
* In-seam- 34"
* Seat height- '07 stock
* Riding Style- semi aggressive
* Type of riding (Highway, twisty, etc)- yes
* Climate (hot/cold/rainy/windy)- Variable
* Handlebar setting (distance from cowl)- in line w/ tubes
* Helmet type. Shoei RF-1000 and Schuberth C-2
* Screen type - Cee Bailey 4 over
* Screen settings (comments on buffeting, Wind noise, wind protection, side winds,etc)- Highest and most forward - Best protection, but loudest.
* Any accessories (extra lip, etc...)- none
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Jphish
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

5'8" - 30" inseam - 08 seat - riding style: upright as possible - backroads prefered, but slab occassionally to get there - handlebars back about 3-4 degrees with precision engineering 1" risers - climate: normal NW snow, rain, sun - HJC symax modular - ZG+4 - all the way up and middle notch - Found all the way up and back (towards rider) better for 70+ mph travel.
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Kurbennett
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So is there a website for this item?
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Pso
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Email Strada (Ian) 4 post above yours. He is the fellow that has caused all this. Good man, good work, rapid turnaround.
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Strada
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 02:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi, If anyone is interested, more details of my Windshield kit are at the link below but I offer to forum members for £47.50/$99 including postage.
If you don't need the small tool kit (1/8" & 4mm Allen Keys plus 10mm combination spanner) then it's £45/$95.
Cheers
Iain

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd =1&item=160240904376&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=00 6
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Hotrod54
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Strada
Im going to buy a set of your brackets, however Im waiting to get registered with paypal. Question is I live in California and want to know about shipping arangements?
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Strada
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi, the postage is included in the $99 price and delivery is normally 3-5 days.

Cheers for now
Iain
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