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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep happened to my 2008 in 700 miles.
By the time I noticed anything at all (smoke)
The cable was toasted.
Toasted so bad that the remnants of the springy thing are embedded in the rubber and there are parts that are white like charcoal.
It must have happened on the highway.

So there is a new springy clampy thing out now, or am I supposed to make something?
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Jwnsc
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

New one, part number N0012.1AAA.
That, and a new clutch cable should be a warranty deal.
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Olenuf2nobetter
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

New part (much heftier) replaces the old wireform thing. Easy to swap out. I was lucky and caught mine before there was damage to the cable.
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Pso
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just like Olenuf-I swapped mine out on Uly and Scg before problem. Cheap insurance, particularly when I go on long rides out in the country.
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Honu
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A co worker called me today to say his clutch cable got burned on his 08 Uly too!!

I thought the 08's came with the new holder (wireform) ???
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Djm
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 08XT did...
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Bigkuri
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No - 08 has the same part I think. Whatever part it is, it is just as crap as the older model part.
Broke two on my 08 Uly and replaced with a "P" clip.
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Jwnsc
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's what I thought too, until I smelled something burning at about 700 miles. Maybe the XTs got the new part. Makes no sense to me. The fact that they went to a new, heavier, part tells me Buell knows there is a problem if you leave the old one on. Wouldn't it be cheaper to install the new parts at the factory rather than incur all the warranty claims?
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Jlnance
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Honu - I think they switched midyear.
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Jwnsc
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>Honu - I think they switched midyear.

I guess my point was what about all the bikes out there that still have the old part (and don't subscribe to Uly forums)?

And not to hijack the topic, but it would nice to know the magic number of wireform failures before Buell was moved to come up with a stronger part and compare it to the number of wheel bearing failures.
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08uly
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Three (3) have snapped on mine...

1st @ 20 miles (melted clutch cable)
2nd @ 700 miles (saved by wire tie)
3rd @ 5,200 miles (saved by wire tie)

Expecting to see the new guide when it's back from the shop.

Old: N0012.1AA
New: N0012.1AAA

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Strada
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I offer this if it helps you.

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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hah! Beat me to it Strada! I was just about to post your clutch cable retainer/guide thingy!
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Strada
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just lucky I was on here!!
Thanks anyway.
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Olenuf2nobetter
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's what the new part looks like - I don't think it'll be breaking like the old one. Please excuse the dirt ...

All the XT's I've seen came with this, while my '08 X did not.

(Message edited by olenuf2nobetter on May 22, 2008)
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4cammer
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Put one on my '07 XB9R last week.

This should be a standard goodwill fix anytime an XB is in for service. Cost me all of 11.00 or so.
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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've never adjusted the clutch on the Uly and my Bandit clutch was hydraulic...but the new part is sitting in the garage and I'd like to to install it today the "proper" way...by slipping the clutch cable end through the clamp rather then bending the prongs on the clamp "open" and then bending them closed again.

What's involved with removing the clutch cable from the handlebar end?

And any tips on readjusting the cable upon reinstallation?

TIA.

Tipsy
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08uly
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wrenches - 9/16" for the locknut and 1/2" for the adjuster.

Method - Loosen the clutch cable adjuster to provide slack, remove the cable from the lever, remove the old wireform from the front mount, pull the cable down & out of the dash, slip off the old wireform, drop the new guide onto the cable (ensure correct orientation), replace cable, fasten new guide to front mount, adjust clutch cable, done.

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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the info '08 Uly!

Any tips on properly adjusting the clutch?

Tipsy
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Nav18tor
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 08 model Ulysses broke its wireform guide in a mere 515 miles

Buell /HD in the UK will not replace with the new fix, only like for like, but I have ordered in the new type

Oh yes, and the clutch cable is all melted

(Message edited by nav18tor on May 23, 2008)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you need to adjust the clutch itself, take the clutch inspection cover off (the keyhole shaped cover) while your clutch cable is off the lever / not adjusted. Turn the screw in the center of the clutch pack in until it bottoms out lightly (do not crank down on it). Back it off 1/4 turn. Reinstall cover. Adjust cable as mentioned above.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well the dealer fixed me up nice and quick but they put a new old-style wireform thing.
I guess it's good for another 700 miles, eh?

I'd bitch but they fixed it fast without any fuss when it was in having the bags installed.

I can't have it replaced unless it breaks first, right?
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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ordered the Strada bracket/clip a couple of days ago and fitted it today. There is no way this sucker is going to break!!!

Thanks to Ian for his customary excellent service!!!
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Nav18tor
Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have used a similar mod as Strada's to keep things sweet until I get the Buell modded fix
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

About the 08's and the new clip, there is a 08 XT on the floor at my dealer, built Apr 2008 with the new clip. It is safe to assume that the switch was mid April. All bikes before that got the paperclip and the ones after have the thing that looks like a crowbar.
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Redwing
Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My XT has and early April build date and it has the "crowbar"
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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

08Uly...thanks for the help! I installed the new style guide this morning. Piece of cake! Thanks for the instructions. For some reason, I thought removing the clutch cable would be more involved.

Everyone should do this as a preventative measure.

Tipsy
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Despite having the old style clip installed, I don't think it will break again.
It's not under tension like it was before.
It looks like the dealership reversed the "P" clamp under it so that the cable is more naturally routed away from the pipe.
Just to be sure, I put a ziptie around the front engine mount and the cable loosely just in case it does break.
I took the blue beast to Montreal and back this weekend and nothing broke after 750 miles.
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Gun_for_hire
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yep mine broke yesterday, 2500 mi. Heard a tingingting sound and searched till I found the metal wire form hanging and dangling. Thought I did something wrong when tralering last week, Now I realize its a defect.

I will definitely wire tie tomorrow so I dont loose the clutch cable to the header.....

Steve
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