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Pinkie_and_the_buell
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 07:34 pm: |
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I got a new set of wheel bearings for the front wheel on the wife's '06 CityX. A month out of warranty... But that's another rant. But I got the package, and and thought, cool! made in USA. Open up the package, and whaddya know....
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Slaughter
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 07:36 pm: |
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51st State? I mean, they're no longer "real" China. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 07:37 pm: |
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No, the BAG was made in America, dummy. |
Daves
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 07:38 pm: |
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pretty cheesy |
Ducxl
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 08:13 pm: |
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THat really goes up my...... It would be illegal to advertise as "Made in USA".......BUT,the American they paid to repackage the bearing cost more than the actual cost of importing THEEEE bearing. You got a piece of crap bearing. Next time,go to a bearing supply house for a quality bearing. (Message edited by ducxl on May 09, 2008) |
Firebolt020283
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 08:23 pm: |
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maybe just the rubber part is made in taiwan |
Slaughter
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 08:28 pm: |
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Aren't the people who use Taiwanese rubbers called Fathers? |
Limitedx1
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 08:38 pm: |
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even the american flag says "made in taiwan" equate this to the people leading this country and well ya see what im getting at. |
Haven564
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 09:44 pm: |
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Could be assembled in the states using foreign parts? Thats my guess. |
Johnnylunchbox
| Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 12:13 am: |
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The bearing has the proper country of origin markings if it was in fact made in Taiwan and imported without packaging marked for retail sale. If the bearing was imported in the bag that says "Made in the USA" then there might be a minor violation of Customs laws. However, as long as Buell Inc, reported them as "Made in Taiwan" regardless of the package labeling there most likely isn't a problem since there is probably no loss of revenue to Uncle Sam. If the bag alone was made in the USA it was probably marked as such to be exported alone without contents, so it probably complies with foreign customs laws marking requirements. Any violation in the case of a domestic sale might be of FTC regulations. Either way it is somewhat misleading, and Buell Inc should be made aware of it to avoid any implication of impropriety. Clear as mud. |
Johnnylunchbox
| Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 12:17 am: |
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Haven564, missed your post you bring up an excellent point. The seal alone may have been made in Taiwan, but the assmebly of the bearing may have occured in the US. So if the entire item has undergone a "substantial transformation" by being assembled or modified in the US, then the completed item's country of origin can be declared as the US. I used to dabble in customs laws. |
Davegess
| Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 03:29 pm: |
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It could also be, and I suspect likely that the bearing came form the USA at some point and now comes from Taiwan and no one updated the label. I bet these are bagged in the US. |
Ducxl
| Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 06:08 pm: |
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USA at some point and now comes from Taiwan and no one updated the label. I bet these are bagged in the US. Typical "Wal-Mart" economics.Demand cost cuts from your suppliers so deep they can't afford U.S. manufacture and bankrupt. But when China can't cost cut anymore you get a piece of crap bearing because there's no free lunch and even the Chinese won't stoop so low.Quality must suffer. (Message edited by ducxl on May 10, 2008) |
Ducxl
| Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 06:09 pm: |
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...Taiwan....whomever |
Loki
| Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 07:12 pm: |
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Step back from the bearing, please. NTN is a Japanese company. Doing manufacturing worldwide. "Welcome to NTN Bearing Corporation of America NTN is one of the world’s largest bearing producers. With manufacturing plants throughout the world, NTN is a leading bearing supplier to both the industrial and automotive markets. Founded in 1918, NTN has long been recognized for the most stringent quality standards in the industry and counts some of the most recognized industrial and automotive brand names as its customers. " btw: one of the bearing facilities is located in Mount Prospect, Il |
Haven564
| Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 10:26 pm: |
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To add to what Loki said: "Over 70% of the bearings sold by NTN in North America are manufactured by one of the seven manufacturing plants the company operates in the USA and Canada." |
Igneroid
| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 12:15 am: |
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Bearings "R" U.S.
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Johnnylunchbox
| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 12:17 am: |
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Seriously, I bet only the seal came from Taiwan, and Buell is well within their rights to sell the whole assembly as a US product. I hope. |
Loki
| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 01:45 am: |
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"Made in (the) USA" is a huge umbrella. |
Mr_grumpy
| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 05:55 am: |
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I'd be very careful asking for US bearings. In British military parlance, U/S has always meant unserviceable. This is purely a linguistic observation, make of it what you will, no criticism is implied or inferred. I don't by bearings from dealers, I generally get the numbers & go to a bearing supplier as most bearings have at least one application. The bearing on my landrover jockey pulley was worn, it's the same one as some Yam FZR front wheels. As far as Brands go, I prefer NSK or Timken, but NTN will do if they're not available. |
Cochise
| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 08:47 am: |
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All they need to do is put it together in the USA, as somebody else said and they'd be fine. From my understanding that even if a shirt is totally manufactured in China, but the taiwanese buttons are sewn on inside the U.S. they can label it as Made in the USA. |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 09:22 am: |
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Regardless of what the package says or where the bearing was actually made, you should read some of the Uly rear wheel bearing threads in "Big, Bad, and Dirty". The OEM NTN bearings seem to be failing excessively. Koyo or SKF (neither made in the U.S.) have been recommended as replacements. |
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