| Author | Message | ||
     Krueger08xb12s |
I’m looking at a D&D or a Drummer pipe to replace my stock. I want a deep, loud, rumble with performance and health for my '08 XB12S. Is it bad for my bike if I go aftermarket on my muffler and air filter(K&N)? Will it make that much of a difference in increasing torque/hp? Where can i get them cheap? So many questions....call it excitement! | ||
| Strmvt |
http://www.americansportbike.com/ There is a very good report on most all exhausts avail for XB models sound bytes dyno runs yada yada. Click the long awaited exhaust shootout link | ||
| Bads1 |
I've had both. The Drummer is a much better pipe through the whole powerband. The D&D though is the mid range monster. Problem is I don't think your stock ECM will be able to adjust to the D&D. Maybe Al can chime in and shed some light on that one. | ||
| Steve899 |
Micron Full system , Sounds great! Looks Great! | ||
| Al_lighton |
We'll be doing a bunch of testing on the dyno on the 08's in May. But if the 08 ECM behaves as the 07 and before did, the D&D is best run on a remap, more so than a drummer. The D&D fueling curve is quite a bit different than the stocker, and it doesn't yield a particularly stable AFV over the entire cruise range. We'll have maps and test data soon. Al | ||
| Krueger08xb12s |
Great! Well I'll just wait till May's '08 dyno tests are complete. I don't want any regrets. Will you make these results available to BadWeb? Thanks Al -Krueger | ||
| Evil_twin |
I have had both. Original drummer and the D&D. Sound wise, I liked the D&D. But that Drummer was nice and mellow sounding and nice and smooth power delivery. I'm running a Micron now and am having nothing but problems with it. If I can't get it straightened out, I'm going back to the Drummer. Just my 2 cents. Rich  | ||
| Load67 |
Go with the Micron, I picked one up from American sportbike a couple months ago along with a key,new map and filter for my 07 12R and have not had a problem at all. If you like to go fast on the curvies then Micron is the way to go. What ever you decide get the whole package (key,tune filter). | ||
| Dmhines |
I get nothing but compliments on the sound of the D&D on my XB12 ... and it runs like a rocket with a good tune ... | ||
| Nautique4life |
Evil Twin, I would like to talk to you about your Micron. I am having issues as well. I have had my micron for ~7 months now and it has cost me a boat load of cash. Various reasons of course, i.e. broken exhaust studs. Now, i am experiencing problems with the pipes slipping apart. Primarily at the canister. Anyway, I won't hijack this thread anymore than I have, but shoot me a line if you want to compare issues. Im up in the air on what to do. | ||
| Hergy916 |
+1 on Drummer. Been running mine since last summer on my 07 12R and love it. Sound is great and obviously since it's a modified stock muffler, fit is perfect. Also, Kevin at KD Fab is a great person to deal with and deserves the support. He's always willing to talk or email even when you're not buying anything. I've purchased a couple other things from him now as well (catch can, points cover) and both of those products are top notch. Most of the people I ride with run Drummer and all are happy. | ||
| 1324 |
Nautique4life and Evil-twin, I'd like to know more about your troubles...so in order to keep this thread clean, I've made a new thread here: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/345718.html?1206118856 | ||
| Xb9er |
I have a D&D on my bike and like it. What a mid range monster! The sound is a little high pitched(for me), and is loud at any RPM, Toona has a special ops and it has the perfect sound(some more food for thought). All in all my D&D is a great pipe. (Message edited by xb9er on March 21, 2008) | ||
| Mathen001 |
D&D sounds Like a lot larger bike, I get odd looks from Harley guys all the time. as far as your ecm I unplugged the battery for 20 min. and after about 100 miles I think it "learned" | ||
| Firebolteric_ma |
as far as your ecm I unplugged the battery for 20 min. and after about 100 miles I think it "learned" That is not needed.. | ||
| Vicfirebolt |
I love the way my d&d pipe sounds on my xb9 I used it with both stock and race ecu no issues really though I think it likes the race one allot more. I have had a number of harley dudes comment on the sound of my bike in a positive way. | ||
| Xb12spawn |
i put the drummer on my 07 xb12scg along with the k&n air filter draft inducted airbox cover and buell race ecm and i have to say the sound and power delivery is awesome! i wouldn't trade it for any other xb exhaust system. it looks great and sounds even better. i would recommend to anyone interested to have it installed!! |
