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Krueger08xb12s
| Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 09:48 pm: |
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I’m looking at a D&D or a Drummer pipe to replace my stock. I want a deep, loud, rumble with performance and health for my '08 XB12S. Is it bad for my bike if I go aftermarket on my muffler and air filter(K&N)? Will it make that much of a difference in increasing torque/hp? Where can i get them cheap? So many questions....call it excitement! |
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Strmvt
| Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 09:56 pm: |
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http://www.americansportbike.com/ There is a very good report on most all exhausts avail for XB models sound bytes dyno runs yada yada. Click the long awaited exhaust shootout link |
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Bads1
| Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 09:57 pm: |
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I've had both. The Drummer is a much better pipe through the whole powerband. The D&D though is the mid range monster. Problem is I don't think your stock ECM will be able to adjust to the D&D. Maybe Al can chime in and shed some light on that one. |
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Steve899
| Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 10:08 pm: |
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Micron Full system , Sounds great! Looks Great! |
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Al_lighton
| Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 12:53 am: |
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We'll be doing a bunch of testing on the dyno on the 08's in May. But if the 08 ECM behaves as the 07 and before did, the D&D is best run on a remap, more so than a drummer. The D&D fueling curve is quite a bit different than the stocker, and it doesn't yield a particularly stable AFV over the entire cruise range. We'll have maps and test data soon. Al |
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Krueger08xb12s
| Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 06:33 am: |
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Great! Well I'll just wait till May's '08 dyno tests are complete. I don't want any regrets. Will you make these results available to BadWeb? Thanks Al -Krueger |
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Evil_twin
| Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 06:10 pm: |
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I have had both. Original drummer and the D&D. Sound wise, I liked the D&D. But that Drummer was nice and mellow sounding and nice and smooth power delivery. I'm running a Micron now and am having nothing but problems with it. If I can't get it straightened out, I'm going back to the Drummer. Just my 2 cents. Rich![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/grrin.gif) |
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Load67
| Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 09:36 pm: |
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Go with the Micron, I picked one up from American sportbike a couple months ago along with a key,new map and filter for my 07 12R and have not had a problem at all. If you like to go fast on the curvies then Micron is the way to go. What ever you decide get the whole package (key,tune filter). |
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Dmhines
| Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 10:24 pm: |
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I get nothing but compliments on the sound of the D&D on my XB12 ... and it runs like a rocket with a good tune ... |
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Nautique4life
| Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 08:53 am: |
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Evil Twin, I would like to talk to you about your Micron. I am having issues as well. I have had my micron for ~7 months now and it has cost me a boat load of cash. Various reasons of course, i.e. broken exhaust studs. Now, i am experiencing problems with the pipes slipping apart. Primarily at the canister. Anyway, I won't hijack this thread anymore than I have, but shoot me a line if you want to compare issues. Im up in the air on what to do. |
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Hergy916
| Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 10:40 am: |
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+1 on Drummer. Been running mine since last summer on my 07 12R and love it. Sound is great and obviously since it's a modified stock muffler, fit is perfect. Also, Kevin at KD Fab is a great person to deal with and deserves the support. He's always willing to talk or email even when you're not buying anything. I've purchased a couple other things from him now as well (catch can, points cover) and both of those products are top notch. Most of the people I ride with run Drummer and all are happy. |
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1324
| Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 01:02 pm: |
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Nautique4life and Evil-twin, I'd like to know more about your troubles...so in order to keep this thread clean, I've made a new thread here: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/345718.html?1206118856 |
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Xb9er
| Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 02:04 pm: |
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I have a D&D on my bike and like it. What a mid range monster! The sound is a little high pitched(for me), and is loud at any RPM, Toona has a special ops and it has the perfect sound(some more food for thought). All in all my D&D is a great pipe. (Message edited by xb9er on March 21, 2008) |
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Mathen001
| Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 03:42 pm: |
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D&D sounds Like a lot larger bike, I get odd looks from Harley guys all the time. as far as your ecm I unplugged the battery for 20 min. and after about 100 miles I think it "learned" |
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Firebolteric_ma
| Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 07:48 pm: |
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as far as your ecm I unplugged the battery for 20 min. and after about 100 miles I think it "learned" That is not needed.. |
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Vicfirebolt
| Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 01:56 am: |
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I love the way my d&d pipe sounds on my xb9 I used it with both stock and race ecu no issues really though I think it likes the race one allot more. I have had a number of harley dudes comment on the sound of my bike in a positive way. |
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Xb12spawn
| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 10:05 pm: |
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i put the drummer on my 07 xb12scg along with the k&n air filter draft inducted airbox cover and buell race ecm and i have to say the sound and power delivery is awesome! i wouldn't trade it for any other xb exhaust system. it looks great and sounds even better. i would recommend to anyone interested to have it installed!! |