| Author | Message | ||
     Rocketman |
Please understand that it is no disrespect to you or your thread. Dude, this is everyones thread, and I'm glad it's still going. I wouldn't change or edit any of it. People have said it's gone on forever. The reality is, we've probably written down in its entirety a good, sometimes heated debate, that would take up about 10 minutes of conversation in the local boozer. It's all about perspective. That's why I'm happy you enjoyed the 1125. I'm in no doubt, nor was I ever, it's a great bike. Rocket | ||
| Rocketman |
Greg, there's a central tube that connects the headstock to the top of the frame aft of the engine, so no room for anything other than twin carbs running the standard early Range Rover type set-up, which places them either side of the tube. Rex, there is a tiny but very powerful battery, some electronic ignition components, fuel pump etc, under the seat area. Of course, the clutch, clutch shaft and primary drive are in there somewhere too. Don't forget this is direct drive with a chain turning the drive shaft at the input end.  Rocket | ||
| Metalstorm |
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| Old_man |
I always liked those little aluminum V8 engines since they were in the Buicks. I was always curious as to their weight. I'm sure you know what they weigh. Would you make a comparison to other engines. I often thought that if I had the money I would like to put one in a Volvo PV544 - What a little hot rod that would be. | ||
| Old_man |
PV544  | ||
| Rocketman |
The Rover V8 is lighter than the Essex V6 (all steel) but I forget the weight. It's certainly heavy in a two wheeled contraption  The Rover V8 has been in so many cars, vans, 4x4 etc, it's all but impossible to keep up. Just this month Cosworth have launched their own Rover V8 block with a number of really cool upgrades to the design, and of course the quality one would expect from Cosworth. It's not a bad price either, until you consider it really is just the bare block, and you say it fast onethousandpounds. And yes, that cool Volvo is screaming out for a Rover V8. Here's my favourite V8 Rover application. All be it a heavily modified 5ltr version from TVR Power.  Rocket | ||
| Rex |
I think I love that V8. pretty cool....yea, it has to be at bonneville.....rex | ||
| M2nc |
My Dad raced a Volvo similar to that one above back in the very early sixties. He ended up rolled it end over end four times and put an end to his amateur racing or at least my mother did. | ||
| Rocketman |
Here's what a hot 5ltr V8 Rover looks like in a TVR Griffith 500  Rocket | ||
| Court |
>>>I really did think that the Helicon was a purposely built bike with every bit of her planned & executed with the intent of being the best she could be. That's an accurate statement. You are about to accidently wander on to something. | ||
| Metalstorm |
I'm not so sure anymore Court. I think now that it was crafted through witch craft, high on a mountain top, under a full moon within a circle of naked dancing women, with the sole intent of invoking raw emotion. On Edit: All 1125Rs come stock with an emotional propulsion device at no extra charge to the customer  (Message edited by metalstorm on January 20, 2008) | ||
| Rocketman |
>>>I really did think that the Helicon was a purposely built bike with every bit of her planned & executed with the intent of being the best she could be. That's an accurate statement. You are about to accidently wander on to something. Whoever implied or said otherwise? It still uses an XB type frame, and the geometry of such is tried an tested from the XB. If it were not so, the 1125 would not have needed the XB to forge a path for it. Argue as much as you like. Chicken before the egg. Egg before the chicken. They're the same bike, just different. I wonder if the XB was a 19 year old concept. What happened to you (Court) saying the XB was designed years ago? Or have you forgot those times. Could it be the concept for the XB and the 1125 are one and the same? Just different engines. I think so, and I think you wanted us to believe so after the XB came about. The only difference then, we had no idea of the 1125, a variation on a theme, coming later. It's all there for anyone to see. They just have to work it out, like I have. Rocket | ||
| Crusty |
Whoever implied or said otherwise? Have you got a mirror? | ||
| Court |
Ya read this thread . . you'd tend to think so huh? A mind is a terrible thing to waste. I read it on the internet. | ||
| Ducxl |
Court,what the frickk!  >>>I really did think that the Helicon was a purposely built bike with every bit of her planned & executed with the intent of being the best she could be. That's an accurate statement. You are about to accidently wander on to something. Whoever implied or said otherwise? It still uses an XB type frame, and the geometry of such is tried an tested from the XB. If it were not so, the 1125 would not have needed the XB to forge a path for it. Argue as much as you like. Chicken before the egg. Egg before the chicken. They're the same bike, just different. Court you keep spilling salt into Rockets wound  And them Rocket spews the same line for the 710th time...again and again and again | ||
| Ducxl |
Oh yeah...I'm "brown nosing" Court. | ||
| Gregtonn |
"Obtuse comments or innuendo contribute nothing to a technical conversation."_Greg (Message edited by Gregtonn on January 20, 2008) | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Wait a damn second, there were naked dancing women on the top of the mountain conjuring up Buell bikes and they missed the Dirt bike in their witches brew?!? I am calling balderdash. I suppose maybe I should just ask Sabrina the Teen Witch for the Dirty Buell 450 SM/DS; I would have better luck getting it out of her.  | ||
| Ducxl |
"Obtuse comments or innuendo contribute nothing to a technical convertion."_Greg  Did i miss something?_Greg | ||
| Rocketman |
A mind is a terrible thing to waste. I read it on the internet. Why waste yours then? 800 posts and not one technical contribution or fact from you, as usual. Just put down after put down after put down. And of course "that's inaccurate" comments abound. What the f*ck do you actually know? And Internet is spelt capital 'I'. Rocket | ||
| Jramsey |
Hey Rocketman,who's idea was it to use concrete rebar for the tail section?  | ||
| Gregtonn |
Greg, Did i miss something?_Greg No. I did. The s and the a in conversation. I didn't mean to confuse you. You just happened to be in the que ahead of my post. Court, I don't blame you for being pissed at Rocket. The "never got off base" comment was uncalled for. On the other hand, when you have something to say I wish you would lay it out in plain English. Greg (Message edited by Gregtonn on January 20, 2008) | ||
| Ducxl |
Rebar....yeah i noticed that too.Kind of like on the "Mad Max" theme.But now we're tossing insults,poor Rocket   Hey..it's the internet  .."Spelt"??or "Spelled"?? | ||
| Gregtonn |
Screw it! This is turning back into another crap fight. You guys have fun. | ||
| Metalstorm |
Here's what a hot 5ltr V8 Rover looks like in a TVR Griffith 500 Cramming that much engine in such a tight space as that looks like a great feat of engineering in itself. I'm starting to see the attraction to TVRs | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
I can't tell you exactly the weight of a Rover V8, but it's within a few pounds of a Ford Pinto engine. A favourite engine swap, in the UK, used to be a Rover into a Ford Capri, or Cortina, & people generally used front springs off the 2l model as the V6 powered ones were too stiff & adversely affected the handling. I'd just like to add to ALL of you who've been reading this thread over the last little while, IF YOU HAVE NO CONTRIBUTION TO MAKE PLEASE DON'T POST Gratuitous insults serve no purpose except to make yourself look small. To the rest that have contributed more or less in the spirit of this thread, & especially to Blake for having us round at his place, I thank you for some rich & sometimes enlightening entertainment. | ||
| Rocketman |
Hey Rocketman,who's idea was it to use concrete rebar for the tail section? That would be the same person whose idea it was to use scaffolding bar to construct the whole frame. And it was 'nicked' off a local building site too. Lovely! Rocket | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
The Best Things in life are Free (stolen) | ||
| Jackbequick |
The rebar has compromised the design. It looks ugly. There, now we are even for the things you've said about the 1125R. Jack | ||
| Rocketman |
Gone! Rocket (Message edited by rocketman on January 20, 2008) |
