| Author | Message | ||
     Bigblock |
If'n I ain't a-workin, I's a ridin... (Said unnamed crazy friend, now named...) | ||
| Zac4mac |
Nice, thanks Bigblock and Al. Can't wait to get mine tomorrow. Rocket - FOAD  Z | ||
| Spike |
What year R1? Any chance you could post the charts for us? Faster around a track with a specific rider is one thing, but more rwhp than an R1 is quantifiable. A local dealer dynoed their 1125R after the break-in was finished (~700 miles on the bike) and it put 128hp and 73ft-lbs to the rear wheel. Dyno results vary from one dyno to the next (and even day to day), but this same dyno said my stock '04 XB12R with ~1000 miles on it had 89.x rwhp. TC88 bikes usually end up in the mid-60rwhp range on this dyno. I know newer R1s put closer to 150hp to the rear wheel, so I started looking up older R1 dyno charts. It seems that the '02+ R1s are all in the upper 130 range while the '99-'01 bikes tend to be between 125-135rwhp. This chart from sportrider for a 2000 R1 was the lowest I could find without going back to a YZF1000R (which isn't actually an R1):  | ||
| Blake |
Hey Michael (Spike), "A local dealer dynoed their 1125R after the break-in was finished (~700 miles on the bike) and it put 128hp and 73ft-lbs to the rear wheel. " What dealership, and who was the dyno operator, and what kind of dynamometer and correction factor was used? I ask because in dyno testing just the numbers are near useless for comparisions. We need to know type of dyno, how it was run and in what conditions, and the correction factor. So it would be informative to see that dyno chart. Would you please get a copy and post it, or have them email the Dynojet .dat file to me, if it is a Dynojet dyno? Reported dynamometer torque isn't at the rear wheel. | ||
| Spatten1 |
Great reviews Al and BigBlock! For anyone that has not ridden up the front side of Palomar (Al said he did with the 1125), it is about as tight as a road can get, like a go-kart track all the way up the mountain. The back side on the way down opens up for fast sweepers and even has a mile or so semi-straight fast section. You can find out about anything you need to know about a streetbike riding those two roads! | ||
| Spike |
The dealership was Ray Price HD/Buell in Raleigh, NC. I wasn't there when the run was made so I'd be guessing at which tech actually made the run. I know the dyno is a Dynojet, but I'm not sure if it's a 200i or 250i. All I saw was the print out afterward so I didn't make note of the correction factor, just the peak numbers. I might be able to get a copy of the printed chart, but I don't know if they'd give me the .dat file. We have a current Ray Price employee here on badweb, he may have better luck getting the .dat run file. | ||
| Blake |
Thanks Michael! | ||
| Reindog |
I rode wingman with Al yesterday on my Ulysses. Even better, Al gave me the keys on Saturday and said, "Go put some miles on the 1125R in case I hafta go to Track Day in Laguna Seca on Tuesday." Being the "give, give, give, never take" kinda guy I am, I obliged. It was pretty exciting knowing that I might have been the only honcho in SoCal riding one at the time. As Al has already written, we rode the 170 mile "Ring of Forest Fire" tour. He on his 1125R and me on my Ulysses. We swapped bikes near the end of the ride so I have ridden twice under different riding conditions. My impression of 1125R can be summed up by the following: 1) No Wheels for Old Men (Great movie BTW). or 2) Why I truly love my Uly. I was totally comfortable in the neutral riding stance of the Ulysses all day long. Not so on the 1125R. The riding stance is a sportbike one and the handlebars are too low and pivot downwards. It puts a lot of stress on the wrists during extended travel. Obviously this is a matter of preference and risers plus changing the angle of the bars will help a lot for most riders. The 1125R is going to be a monster. I kept it below 5500 on both excursions but I could have made the blood flow to the back of my eyeball if I had wanted to. The stock rear brake pedal is stubby and difficult to find. Again, this can be fixed with a different peg There was a fair amount of heat generated onto my right knee. Would like to see a 12V outlet for mounting farkles. The 1125R is more for the track than a mountain road. The 1125R is a really exciting bike and is going to be a huge seller. But for me, I have a new found respect for my Ulysses. (Message edited by reindog on December 17, 2007) | ||
| Kravfighter |
Can someone explain to me the process of putting bar risers on, where to get them, and where to get them put on? I want this bike, but I want it to be comfortable to tour on. | ||
| Spatten1 |
Al (American Sportbike) is talking about starting to build them soon. He would do a kit, I assume, that would include any spacers, longer bolts, or new cables that are necessary. I believe that it is normally a simple bolt-on process, nothing very technical. I put lower bars (Crossroads brand) on my XBS and it was cake. | ||
| Al_lighton |
In this case, it will be a new top triple tree. It'll be soon, it is a priority project, but not quite the priority of getting my IT environment converted by January 1. Early next year it will be complete. I NEED them pronto. I'm not going to clone the firebolt Helibars, but they will have some similarities. See http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/9023.html . I've always said that if I owned a Firebolt, it would have to have the Heli's on it. I've pretty much confirmed that after a 175 smiles in the saddle day on the 1125R. BTW, photo credit for all those photos I posted goes to Tom (Reindog). That's why it's ME in all the pictures and not him. Well, that and my hansome model good looks of course "You can find out about anything you need to know about a streetbike riding those two roads!" Truer words have rarely been spoken. The southgrade is about as twisty as it comes, sometimes you feel like you just went 360 around a corner. Unfortunately, the east grade is getting a bit choppy these days. But it has perfect corners radius on every corner. Al (Message edited by al_lighton on December 17, 2007) | ||
| Al_lighton |
See here:  http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=33.274287,-116.828957&spn=0.083671,0.139046&t=h&z=13&om=0 | ||
| Spatten1 |
Al, Too cool! I moved from So Cal about 6 years ago and miss those runs, as well as the Ortega crew. I remember nearly eating it a couple of times on those really tight bends near the top. Just when it seems like you can carry a little speed, you hit a couple of tough decreasing radius turns and the front washes. Good times! | ||
| Jlnance |
But for me, I have a new found respect for my Ulysses. That was what I took away from my Inside Pass experience. That takes nothing away from the 1125r, it's a fantastic bike. But it's a very different bike from a Uly, and the Uly is the bike for the kind of riding I do. | ||
| Dcmortalcoil |
If you want a customizable handlebar for XBR, look no other than ConvertiBars. Got a great range of adjustment. The picture is of my XB12Ss with the R front.  | ||
| Spatten1 |
Wow, that is a slick system! | ||
| Spike |
This is off topic, but I went through the same thing with my Firebolt and the 1125R. I *loved* flogging the 1125R for two sessions at VIR, but what surprised me the most that day was getting back on my XB12R and watching my lap times drop over the rest of the afternoon. Even with the pushrod motor and ZTL1 my XB is still an excellent track bike. ~90rwhp won't make you a hero on the front straight, but it'll help you focus on honing your skills in other areas and it makes every pass even sweeter. Now I've decided that my XB12R is more than I need for street use and I'm looking to trade it for a Ulysses. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Just wondering if anybody has changed the adjustable clutch and brake levers to fit their own needs (long vs. short hands) and what you found out doing this. One poster has said his clutch grabbed way out on the lever. Would the adjustment cure this on the hydraulic system? I assume the brake lever could be adjusted to take hold nearer the bar for comfort or feel. Bob | ||
| Josh_ |
Anyone have a quote for the cost of the first service yet? Second? Thanks | ||
| Ratbuell |
Rest position adjustment on the levers won't affect where in the travel things happen, it only affects where the lever sits when not being used. You still have to travel X degrees from rest for action to happen. The base of the lever (on the pivot) does not move when you adjust. The only thing you "lose" by adjusting closer to the grip is the last few degrees of travel, because you hit the grip sooner. With a hydraulic clutch this should not be an issue; on my tuber with CRGs I have to make sure my lever is in the "out" position for stop and go traffic because of cable travel - the clutch drags at a standstill if I don't. I move it "in" for back roads because I can fan my shifts more quickly. | ||
| Dr_greg |
+1 on the Convertibars...I have them on my Mille. Just make sure you get them good and tight! | ||
| Cobralightning |
Just put in 100 miles today. I know it is a lite day. Bike handles great and I was not uncomfortable in the least bit. No heat issues, I was only getting about 40 miles of FUN per gallon. So looks like I can get in a easy 200 miles before fill ups. All smiles here.  | ||
| Darkice19 |
Its supposed to get up to 40 tomorrow and sunny here in Omaha. Cant wait. Ill get in about 6 hours of riding. If i survive all the sand and gravel on the road ill post some pics. If you dont hear from me the sand and gravel won | ||
| Zac4mac |
Hey, Darkice - Want to meet in the middle for lunch in North Platte? Looks like a good day for a long ride. Z | ||
| Dre99gsx |
Ugh, what a crazy day. You should put some photos of the bike up. I believe I rode her in TRUE "bad weather" style ;) 1 hour 30mins trip to Tarrytown,NY for work (80miles). 34degF out, heated handgrips turn on, layers and full race suit. Felt comfortable even at 80mph (still breaking it in). Got there, hands and feet were a bit numb from the vibration. Back of neck was a tad swore. Palms were red from the massive heat of the grips. (I noticed the buell heated grips get hotter on the throttle side, and at the middle setting, clutch side barely gets hot. wierd). Anyway, the ride home was another story. 4:30pm. Took me 2 and a half hours to get home. Started raining. Great. Then I hit massive traffic. It started raining HARD. Then it turned into freezing rain. Oh boy. Talk about fog-central. Could not see anything from my visor. Opening it at 25mph was worse. It was cold and those ice pellets were hard. I was still warm, but felt water tricking in certain places. The bike felt stable all throughout, but DAMN do those mirrors suck. I had to triple guess any move as I couldn't tell what was behind me. Then it rained some more. Then traffic broke up, and it was back at 60mph to keep from hydroplaning. Finally, rained stopped. 287 barely has street lights and with a wet road, its tough to descern pot holes and things, so I had to rely on the brake lights ahead of me to light up the road, scanning for pot holes and anything major. Last 45 mins, It got dryer and I got back up to speed, hoping to dry myself off. I was hoping the bike was nice and clean from the rain. I got home safely, and took one look at the bike. Its filthy. Its dirty. It looks like it went through a mud bath. Everything from the mid section to the muffler is coated in gooyie mess. But it survived. I got off the bike with some cramps all over, and had to piss badly. My gear held up well though. Ice-Biker long johns worked like a charm under the Alpinestar track leathers. I got used to keeping pressure off of my wrists by sitting as forward as possible to the tank. A few other things: - In traffic, if you keep it in first gear and slowly let the clutch out, the RPMs automatically raise by 1k or so. I was able to cruise in traffice without giving it gas. Pretty neat. - Lights do work well in these terrible conditions. One other funny thing is... while traveling through this rain/sleet storm at night, at some point, I forgot I was riding the bike. Seriously, the thing felt so comfortable and I was at ease, looking ahead of the bike, I forgot there was a bike beneath me. At times I thought I was stopped. Kudos ;) (Message edited by dre99gsx on December 19, 2007) | ||
| Zac4mac |
I think you just "got it" Z | ||
| Kravfighter |
Darkice, I live in Lincoln, so, as soon as I get mine, I'll have to give you a shout so we can go for a ride. | ||
| Doerman |
I put my riding impressions in: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/322541.html | ||
| Rocketman |
Talk about fog-central. Could not see anything from my visor. I never thought I'd see the day, a Buell rider with fogged visor. I hope Ducati don't find out. They hold the patent I believe  Rocket | ||
| Blake |
Buell riders get fogged visors just as often as anyone. We just don't use that as an excuse if we get beat fair and square in a national level motorcycle race at Daytona. |
