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Ebear
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check it out at RRW.

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=30874

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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Man, that's great news on several fronts.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting.
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Elvis
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool! Mr. Morris hinted that they may be using an 1125R in Moto-ST here:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=158664&post=1015661#POST1015661
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Firebolt428
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was at the Seattle show this last weekend and was told by a Buell Engineer that Buell will be developing a chain conversion kit for the 1125? Hopefully we can get some pics of the bike at the test and see if they have any cool race bits on it...
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Anonymous
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bike at the Pirelli tire test is completely stock, except for being detuned way down to 116 RWHP. So of course it has a belt on it. No trick parts at all.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I see it also has a stabilizer on it...does it use an RR piece, or will one that fits an XB work on the 1125?

I rode the bike at Pocono and loved it, no real need for a stabilizer IMO, at least not at that track or for my riding abilities (or lack thereof)...but I'm hoping that (like the ZTL2) the price for an RR style stabilizer may drop some if it becomes more "common". I want to put a transverse-mounted one on my S2 behind the headlight, but they're all so damn pricey!

Also...why detune if you're testing tires? Wouldn't you want stock HP levels to test acceleration grip and slippage? Or are they going for "this is how long our tires can last" testing?
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Anonymous
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is a Richie Morris Racing test for the MotoST SST class which has a maximum RWHP of 118.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ahah. I knew someone smarter than me would know the answer! And I'm sure if I went back and re-read the article...it'd be right there in front of me. D'oh!

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Xb9
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Update:

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=30879

So they are trying a "throttle stop" to detune it to fit the class....

Barnes said the bike’s engine was “incredible, almost electric,”
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

116 RWHP... from roughly idle to redline : )

Cool!
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Court
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>So of course it has a belt on it. No trick parts at all.

Uh . . . that's an inaccurate statement. . . . if Shawn Higbee is riding it.

: )
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Gearhead
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who would have ever believed a few years ago that a Buell would have to be detuned to run in any racing class!!

Priceless!!
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Dbird29
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://daytonasportbikes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t =2880

Some pics from the tire test. 1125R & XB12R in there.
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Firebolt428
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool. Thanks. Anony thanks for clarifying. Look forward to hopefully seeing some race bits from the factory.

I have been looking for pics so thanks for the link, those are all great shots.
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Jimidan
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 01:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It looks like the 1125R was crashed in one of the shots, although the damage didn't look too bad...windshield was torn off, and maybe the left airscoop/slider did its job very well?
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Androidgobotron
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 02:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"This is a Richie Morris Racing test for the MotoST SST class which has a maximum RWHP of 118."

Here's an interesting thought (just thinking out loud...off topic).

Imagine...a motorcycle racing class of run what ya brung limited only by track dyno testing of rear wheel horsepower. Different classes...different horsepower levels. Different tracks...different setups/combinations. Think of all of the weird stuff that would show up and a how much it would depend on the rider's skill. Stock repli-racers versus turbocharged tricked out sportsters versus vintage bikes versus home-made rat bikes. What fun it could be!

Oh yeah...bikes must pass safety inspection too.
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Rich
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 06:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://daytonasportbikes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t =2880

OOPs. Repost.

(Message edited by Rich on December 04, 2007)
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Ccryder
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm, I didn't see the one with the torn off windshield, where was it?

Thx
Neil S.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think he's referring to this photo, but I believe the windshield is actually OK. At first glance it looks damaged but I think it's just the angle of the shot.

I wonder why they used a bare/semi-polished frame?

(Edit- Image removed, site prevents direct photo linking)

(Message edited by hughlysses on December 04, 2007)
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hugh, that's a Kawasaki...yes, no?

Z
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can remember the early days of Formula USA, where the only rule was "Motorcycles have two wheels."

I watched an AWESOME race at Pocono where people were running punched out, supercharged Suzuki GSXR-1000's against factory Yamaha 500cc two strokes (ridden by Rich Oliver and... ummmm... I forget).

It wasn't even close. The two strokes SMOKED (pun intended) everyone there. The speeds they were hitting were phenomenal, and the winner won by over half a lap!

Fun stuff. I don't think that class is as unrestricted as it used to be though.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hugh, that's a Kawasaki...yes, no?

Zack, are you funning me? Do you not recognize your new bike from this angle? Note the designation on the tail:


1125R
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

maybe I saw something different - All I see is a green and blue Kawi - "Daytona Sportbikes - Come ride with us"... That was at home, see the same thing at work..??

Z
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ahh, that explains it. It looks like they have something on their site to prevent photos from being directly linked. NOW I see what you're talking about.

Photo in question is about 5/6's of the way down the page, and is a left rear 3/4 shot of an 1125R with the wheels removed.
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Ccryder
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A little work and you can see that everything is just fine:

1125rTire


Neil S.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Niel -

Thought I remembered that shot from last night, now I can't see it in the linked thread... odd

Cleared my cache and now I can see it again. Maybe that's an omen that my 1125 will be here today.

Z
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Nicozzzz
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the first 1125R lap time is very very interesting ..

i find the best lap time of 2007 8 hours same category and the best is a RSV 1000 but the lap time is pretty the same , and buell is fully stock , with light and the full weight ... I think very interesting ..

will be also more interesting to see lap time at full power ....
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My guess on the bare frame is either a) they needed a bike NOW and pulled one before it was coated, or b) save a few grams, lose the powdercoat, or way out there c) maybe it runs cooler or something. <shrug>
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Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was (a). Grams and temp not involved, simply supply and availability of a replacement frame without disturbing production flow, which has been disturbed enough!
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