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Punkid8888
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I have this problem that I have to do everything myself. I don’t think it’s because I am cheap or anything. I think it’s just because I want to know how it’s designed or assembled

Anyways.... Tire replacement.

Well front tire just sucked. I think the service manual forget to put in a few steps. Like remove front fender completely. and remove bolts from caliper so once rim is loose it will get out of the way quicker so that you don’t scratch your rim, …… twice.
Anyways the scratches are minimal, and I would rather me then someone else. I am over it.

Also no matter how many times they say it in the manual or on the fork I still tried to remove the axle turning it counterclockwise. grrrr. They could not install the axle bolt through the left fork instead???

Anyways so now to the rear.

So it went great until I got to removing the idler pulley. WHY???????????/ I got half way through it and then said hmm this sux maybe I will hold off to see of I really need too. NOPE just loosen the axle enough and carefully slip the belt off rim pulley. no problem

But wait breaking loose that freekin Axle bolt. Ohh WOW. I thought the bike was coming off the stand or the extension would break or the rear stand would just break because I was using my foot and bouncing my full weight (170lbs) on the ratchet handle with no hint of it breakin loose. Finally I heard the crack. To my disbelieve the axle actually came loose.

So now I need to change the tires. I will be doing it my self on a tire machine. I have done plenty of motor cycle tires but with the way things have gone thus far is there anything I should be careful of. Like the by the way the rim is oval or something.

Anyways I did want to thank the board for the trick of the backwards sparkplug socket.

Also is everyone else’s rear axle semi corroded in the middle???

Anyways its 06 XB9SX with 15000 miles. First tire replacement
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Ustorque
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

good luck patrick hope things get better for ya......we'll have to get together for a ride sometime my inlaws live in NO. weymouth so i'm down there alot.
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Beachbuell
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Use some anti seize on the axles when installing them. Makes for easy out next time around.
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Xring
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also is everyone else’s rear axle semi corroded in the middle???

Mine has been both times I changed back tires, despite cleaning and anti-seizing the first time.

When I got done with my first tire change I said I would've paid somebody good money to do that for me. The second time I did them it went smooth. Even changing the fork fluid was easy.
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Mtg
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll second that removing the idler pulley is not necessary. Removing the rear caliper is questionable- I think it just makes for an easier reinstall of the rear wheel.

Also I will second being careful about tipping the bike over when breaking loose the rear axle and caliper bolts. When I went to remove the rear caliper I tipped the bike over trying to break the rear caliper bolts loose.

(Message edited by mtg on November 05, 2007)
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Mikef5000
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You got 15,000 miles out of a set of tires???

GOOD LORD!

I should be able to make it to 15k on this set..... but it's my third set!
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Treadmarks
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 06:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Windex will help putting the tires on the rims by hand.

Clean all the junk of the axles and inspect the bearings.

Use anti-sieze on the axles, threads, heads and shoulders.

Do not over torque the axles on re assembly. Too much torque causes the spacer between the wheel bearings to compress and then applies too much preload to the bearings which will lead to failure.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on what Mikef said.
Were they solid? They had to be bald as a baby's bottom.
That's amazing 15k on a set of tires, that should get an award or at least an honorable mention!
I would be curious to know what brand and model they were.
I'm changing the front and back this winter and might have a new contender. As of now it will be the Metzler M3's.
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Punkid8888
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

beleive it or not they really were not bald yet. The rear was into the wear bar but it was pretty flat. (lots of commutting lately) the front just started to touch the wear bar. But the front was cupping towards the end of the life. thats the reason why I changed the tires now because the front was not feeling to solid in a lean. that and I am coming up on winter which means leaves and sand. I would like fresh rubber for that. they were stock Pirelli Scorpion Syncs. I will take a couple photos of the old vs the new.

Question for the over torqueing the axle. I said before I went the wrong way intially on the front axle. I wont lie it did turn ever so slightly, maybe a degree or two. then I quickly came to my senses and removed the bolt the correct way. do you think I might have just killed the bearings in that little bit of over torque?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No worries... the load is on the inner races. So unless you deformed the wheel or integral spacer, you won't have hurt the bearings.
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