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Green_lantern
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just had a salesman tell me that because of the changes to the 08 models (engines) they are "down" on power compared to the 07s. Is this BS? The reason I think he told me this is so I would buy the 07 mode, which he has one left in that model and would have to order an 08 for me. It was an STT, btw.
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Svo1023
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

smells like b.s. to me.....but what do i know i just sell them....
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Cataract2
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BS, power is the same. Just check on Buell's website.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ask him for some of his crack. It's obviously good stuff.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's probably true. I hear they had to leave some of the rollers out of the muffler bearing to meet the new EPA limits. Either that, or the 2008 Knutesen valves are smaller.

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Ridrx
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Parasitic loss to the pneumatic fluid pump is what I heard.
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Blackxb9
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I heard they had a shortage of dilithium crystals at the factory and the new flux capaciter had to be re-mapped to meet the EPA regulations on plutonium. Could just be another urban legend though.

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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you ask him how they were down on power and have a higher rev limit?
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let's look on the bright side for a moment. Maybe the guy's just stupid? If he's not stupid then he's a liar. I'm shocked he didn't tell you they were way down on power and that what you really needed was the powerhouse of performance 883 Sportster.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He could have told you that the Road King is faster because it's bigger.
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Greenlantern
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you ask him how they were down on power and have a higher rev limit?

Limited engagement Clutch?
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A salesman wouldn't lie to you...
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Cataract2
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, did you hear? Buell is putting in warp drive as an option on the 09 models.
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Green_lantern
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First impressions are everything.
I'm glad you clowns think it's funny too. I sure did. What disappointed me was that it was by a sponsor on this board. And it seemed to reinforce the negative stereotype of Buell/Harley Dealers. I guess it's no big deal in the end except that they're not going to get my money or recurring business for servicing the bike.
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Was it a sponsor on this board or one of the sponsors employees?

I'm sure the person writing the sponsorship check would like to know how their bread & butter customers are being treated. Food for thought.
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 Big Daddy
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Green_lantern
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To clarify: it was a sponsor's employee.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Still. The sponsors ARE their employees.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they're down on power because they aren't using teflon tape on the drain plugs anymore.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they're down on power because they aren't using teflon tape on the drain plugs anymore.

That Badlionsfan, he a bad man.



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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Hey, did you hear? Buell is putting in warp drive as an option on the 09 models"

is that being made in Austria too?
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Metalstorm
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it's because they arn't shipping them out with the headlights filled to the proper level with the correct weight headlight fluid.
The 08's are not only a pint low but the headlight fluid that they're using is too heavy of a grade which causes the headlights to put out more heat which causes the engine to run hotter which robs power.

joker
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Still. The sponsors ARE their employees.

Agreed -- initial impressions, etc, etc,, etc.

If the principal stakeholder has no knowledge of this how can they make the necessary changes?

There's way too many naysayers out there and we should, IMO, help Buell cull the herd of bad first impressions.

YMMV
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Luxor
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bigdaddy +1
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Brumbear
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey green lets have the dealer and everyone that can will show up at once and dogpile on the rabbit
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting.
* Indvidual Results May Vary. Due to stock manufacturing changes '06 & '07 models show less output on HP & TQ.
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Bake
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a salesman in Oregon tell me they had more power because of the new oil pump and a different timing cover. Maybe these 2 guys should get together.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is a "lighted flywheel?" They adding neon now??

I am hoping they meant " lightened".
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