| Author | Message | ||
     Gregtonn |
Somebody must have left their earplugs in. Squeak, squeak, squeakitty, squeak, SQUEAK... | ||
| Gregtonn |
Imagine a satellite that has been designed to do things that have never been done before. Every facet of it was computer designed, tested, computer simulated, tested and retested. Attachment points to the launch craft went through the same rigorous computer testing and simulation. "Okay boys lets get this thing mounted on that big ol' vibe table to simulate launch conditions." "Alright! Lets do it! Wait a minute...What the...? Where...?? Who...??? This thing ain't got no lift points!!!" Just a slight dramatization of a true story. Squeak, squeak, squeakitty, squeak... | ||
| Dbird29 |
I'm sure they have jack points figured out. I think no anony is going to respond to this thread. You will have to wait like the rest of us.  | ||
| Gregtonn |
"I'm sure they have jack points figured out." What makes you so sure? It does seem to be a simple thing. There have been answers to questions about fuel injection, cooling flow, boring cylinders, the security system and many other issues. Why no answer for such a seemingly simple question? Is the real answer that a roadside or parking lot tire change might be too complex for the average rider? It would appear the belt guards have to be removed for a rear tire change. What about the belt tensioner? The rear brake? Rear fender? Can the front wheel be removed without unbolting the rotor or caliper? I may have to wait. I don't have to wait with my eyes closed and my hands in my pockets. | ||
| Spiderman |
It would appear the belt guards have to be removed for a rear tire change. Doesn't look like it too me. What about the belt tensioner? I would, I do that on all the XB wheels I remove, just adds a feeling of safety when moving the belt around and it only takes a few seconds. The rear brake? Rear fender? No and No I can do a Tuber/Blast/XB all without removing the rear brake this looks to be no different. In fact it looks like you need to remove the rear tire to remove the rear brake. Can the front wheel be removed without unbolting the rotor or caliper? I would say yes, it should be the same procedure as removing the front rim on a XB. | ||
| Gregtonn |
You've made some fair guesses at those questions. What about the original question? | ||
| Dbird29 |
"I'm sure they have jack points figured out." "What makes you so sure? It does seem to be a simple thing." Prove they don't buddy. | ||
| Gregtonn |
"Prove they don't buddy." If I could prove that there would be no need for "The Question". | ||
| Dbird29 |
Seeing how they have jack points on the XB you would deduce that the new 1125R would have the same accommodation. Unless you think the engineers at Buell are stupid then you could be all squeaky about anything. | ||
| Gregtonn |
Seeing how they have jack points on the XB you would deduce that the new 1125R would have the same accommodation. Sure makes sense to me. Except for the silence. Then I look at that smooth, angled swing arm and I start to wonder again. I also wonder; What if somebody makes a three pound titanium muffler that sounds sweet and works as well as the stock piece? Do I really want to use that for a jack point? Dave, you sound like you're peeved. What I'm trying to do here is get an answer to a question. I'm sorry if that bothers you. You know what this thread is about. If it upsets you, maybe you should leave this one out of your reading list. Greg | ||
| Dbird29 |
Don't tell me to be silent! Oh wait you are suggesting doing what the anonnys are doing to you. I get it. Irony. I think the whole premise of "they won't tell me what I petulantly demand to know" is getting old and has been unproductive. Do you work in TV News? What else have they not disclosed? Conspiracies everywhere.  | ||
| Metalstorm |
Maybe you're asking the wrong question. Maybe you should ask "What would happen to my 1125R if I put a jack under it and lifted it by the muffler?"  (Message edited by metalstorm on August 16, 2007) | ||
| M1combat |
SQUEEKITY SQUEEK SQUAK SQUEEEEEEEKING EFFING SQUAUICKISHISM!!!!! Just to bug Dbird a little  . | ||
| Dbird29 |
I got your squeakity squeak right there!   | ||
| Crusty |
I am kind of curious. My S3 and M2 needed stands to lift them. My Uly can be jacked up under the muffler; which is a good thing, 'cause my Pit Bull stands don't fit it. The muffler on the 1125 is big. Did Buell decide that the weight savings in using thinner sheet metal was more important than the ability to lift the bike? It's not that big of a deal; I'm sure there are stands that will fit it. | ||
| Gregtonn |
"Don't tell me to be silent!"  Now that sounds petulant. Never even suggested that you should be silent. I just suggested that you could skip reading this thread if it gets your blood pressure up. TV news? Hardly. I prefer productive employment of my time, like mechanical engineering. I still haven't had an answer to "The Question". Something as simple as screw bosses on the bottom of each side of the swing arm would at least provide some options. Sorry I missed a day but we had a flash flood down the road a ways and it must have taken out my connection. A little bird told me I should keep squeak, squeak, squeaking.  | ||
| Dbird29 |
If the squeaky wheel misses a day it has to start over. Here are some excellent jacks: http://www.handyindustries.com/shop/product_view.a sp?idProduct=167&D=1&S=4 A couple more! | ||
| Tpoppa |
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| Gregtonn |
Nice jack stands. Do you think they would work with the 1125R swing arm? In my best Al Borland voice "I don't think so Dave". | ||
| Spiderman |
tehe | ||
| Bob_thompson |
I have pretty much stayed out of this and will wait and see what the owners manual has to say but I am currently using a nice stand that raises the back wheel up from the rider pegs and almost balances it like a center stand would. A small bottle jack then raises the front up to do both ends of the bike. I will probable fabricate a similar unit or adapt the current one for both to raise the 1125R up using the passenger pegs as it looks feasible from what I see in the picture below. The pegs are probably frame mounted and should be strong enough to hold the weight but I will wait and see what is proper when I get it. I DO like custom fabrication. Bob  | ||
| Dbird29 |
"Nice jack stands. Do you think they would work with the 1125R swing arm? In my best Al Borland voice "I don't think so Dave"." I think if you hooked one end up to a tree and the other to the truck bumper you could spread those Handy stands enough to work. Or maybe Buell will have some $750 stands in the P&A catalog. I like Bob's idea of the peg lifter. (you forgot the squeakity think Greg, now you have to start over) | ||
| Gregtonn |
Didn't forget. I only turn that wheel once a day. See Dave. I knew you liked it here. Its not just so you can beat dead horses. You want to know the answer to "The Question" too.  | ||
| Gregtonn |
The peg mounts work okay for lifting purposes. But it requires fabricating special equipment. "I think if you hooked one end up to a tree and the other to the truck bumper you could spread those Handy stands enough to work." Once again. "I don't think so Dave". Width it not the issue. The downward slope of the swing arm makes the stand slide up toward the swing arm pivot. Squeak, squeak, squeakitty, squeak... | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Greg, I only somewhat agree on the "special equipment" statement. Only if you think a lift is special equipment. Many over the counter lifts, lift from spools, frames and under steering heads as I've seen on the tracks. Remember there is usually one for each end to change tires quickly. I'm just going to make my own as its what I like to do. You might just see one on the market like I'm planning on. Still spools would be nice for occasional track use or along side the road with a chase truck. Stay cool my man. | ||
| Dbird29 |
Ahh I see Engineer's disease. Glad to see you are smarter than all those Buell engineers. Too bad they did not think of such an obvious problem of jacking up the new model bike. Do you wait for them to reveal how they plan to jack it before ripping them a new one on the "solution"? I still don't think an Anony will answer your question. Here's more dead horse beating.....  | ||
| Gregtonn |
Bob, I agree with you. I wouldn't normally consider jack stands special equipment. I would qualify that by saying this; if a specific model requires a unique lift I would regard that as special equipment. The front of the 1125R has counter bores at the bottom of the fork tubes. These will accept a variety of "standard" jack stands. The swing arm presents a challenge. You're right jack stands make good sense at the track or if you have a chase truck for a group ride. I often take solo rides of 1,000 to as many as 5,000 miles. Often I don't know where I'm going to be until I get there. That's why I would prefer a simple and reliable method of lifting the bike without special equipment. I'm like you. I like making special tools and adapting designs to more closely suit my needs. Thanks for the cognizant and perceptive input. Greg | ||
| Spiderman |
tehe For a bunch of arm chair engineers I thought you guys would have it figured out by now LOL | ||
| Gregtonn |
Spidey, I had it figured out even before I asked "The Question". I just hoped to find out if someone had a different approach. I'll accept the title of arm chair engineer when it comes to commercial motorcycle design. There are some things you probably don't know. 1. Odds are that I helped engineer some of the equipment that made the chips for that computer you're using. 2. If you have ever looked at satellite weather images on your computer or TV, chances are they come from a satellite I helped to engineer. 3. The Space Station power system relies on a power system that includes several modules I helped to engineer. I am an arm chair engineer in the same way that Fran Tarkenton, Joe Montana and Dan Morino are arm chair quarterbacks. Wer'e all retired from our former professions. Greg  | ||
| Spiderman |
OK sputnik LOL Have you seen the cut away of the 1125 yet? |
