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Bueaddicted
| Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2007 - 07:34 pm: |
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My brother asked me why Buell still sells the Race ECM if they do not sell the race muffler. I had no answer for him... If the race ECM was designed only for the Race muffler, why do they continue to sell it if the stock ECM can be remapped to most mufflers?
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Altima02
| Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2007 - 08:12 pm: |
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to make money, duh. For most customers, its easier to buy the race ECM and filter and then buy an aftermarket muffler, than to get their stock ECM remapped. |
Busterx
| Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2007 - 09:12 pm: |
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Cause there is still a few used race mufflers out there, like the one I just got for mine. |
Bueaddicted
| Posted on Sunday, June 24, 2007 - 01:33 pm: |
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Seems fishy to me... but thanks for the answers. Paul |
Spatten1
| Posted on Sunday, June 24, 2007 - 03:27 pm: |
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I would guess, and it is a guess that: The race muffler throws the bike out if noise or emissions compliance, and HD is getting away from selling that kind of stuff. The ECM will not affect noise, and in closed loop probably does not hurt emissions. |
Steve_mackay
| Posted on Sunday, June 24, 2007 - 04:14 pm: |
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Spatten is correct. They wont sell a non DOT approved muffler. The Race muffler is too loud to meet approval. The Race ECM doesn't effect the noise whatsoever, so they will still sell it |
Bueaddicted
| Posted on Sunday, June 24, 2007 - 06:02 pm: |
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Okay, but is there an advantage in using a race ECM with the OEM muffler? According to the literature, the race ECM's have a map specifically designed for the Race Muffler, not the standard muffler as it does not use the interactive valve. So why continue selling something that is "not approved" for the stock muffler? Paul |
07xb12scg
| Posted on Sunday, June 24, 2007 - 07:09 pm: |
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The race muffler throws the bike out if noise or emissions compliance, and HD is getting away from selling that kind of stuff. They are? So they will stop selling Screamin' Eagle exhaust for Harleys? If they do that will blow me away. A lot of Harley guys are all about the-louder-the-better pipes! |
Steve_mackay
| Posted on Sunday, June 24, 2007 - 07:54 pm: |
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They've stopped making SE mufflers that don't pass EPA noise levels for about 14 months now. |
07xb12scg
| Posted on Sunday, June 24, 2007 - 08:33 pm: |
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They've stopped making SE mufflers that don't pass EPA noise levels for about 14 months now. Wow. I was unaware of that. What's the EPA noise level? 98db? |
Bads1
| Posted on Sunday, June 24, 2007 - 09:23 pm: |
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Yep Steves right. You should her the new SE pipes. Super Quiet in comparison. They used to growl..... Potato,Potato,Potato. Now they kinda go Potato,Potato,Couch,Potato. |
Punkid8888
| Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 08:19 am: |
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Ohhh Man I just about fell out of my cubical |
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