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Jimidan
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 10:14 am: | 
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Welcome to the unholy realm of "Debating with Liberals."
Didn't you mean "bald-headed liberals}"? |
Blake
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 10:43 am: |
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"Blake is >REALLY, >REALLY white "
I thought my southern Italian blood--great grandfather Carmen Mazza immigrated to America from Calabria, Italy--would put me more in the in-between category. 
And, all of my motorcycles have been black.  |
Greenlantern
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 10:51 am: |
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Well put GL. It sounds like you have an insight into something the (some of the) rest of us can't see. Imagine that...
Naw it's just the ring
By the way jim, good to see that you got past that speaking in the third person thing. i was worried! |
Jimidan
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 12:12 pm: |
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I thought my southern Italian blood--great grandfather Carmen Mazza immigrated to America from Calabria, Italy--would put me more in the in-between category.
I would have thought so too...whut happened? } |
Jimidan
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 12:29 pm: |
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the constitution needs to be amended...
that little bit about "Freedom of Speech", it needs to have a few astericks after it.
ok, you are free to say what you choose unless you are caucasian american, straight, and believe in God...if you fall into that category, anything you say, can and probably will be held against you...you already supposedly have it made, so we (the ACLU, the NAACP, GLAD, etc.) can't allow you to say anything that makes us (the above groups) upset that "you" (straight, white, Christian) said something that we can say about ourselves, but it is demeaning and offensive if you say it.
ok everyone should be clear on this now
Yeah, we are perfectly clear on where you stand on this issue, you poor unfortunate straight, white, Christian. Blake, I couldn't just walk out of the room like you do...I am just not strong enough yet.
}on a similar note, about 6 or 7 years ago, i saw a guy (a huge guy) with a black shirt that had a white screen print on the front of a male figure (like the ones you see to show the mens room logo) bent over with another male figure behind it with the circle and a slash through it (the NO symbol) and on the back in huge white letters it said "AIDS...kills fags dead" (like the old Raid commercials), so after a few minutes i spoke to the guy and asked if he got a lot of comments on his shirt and he said "only positive ones". Funny how someone who clearly is showing his beliefs, which had to be incredibly offensive to lots of people, doesn't receive any negative comments to his face only positive ones.
Hey, nobody gave this red-neck homophobe any negative comments because they were afraid he would kick their "asterick", or worse. What does that prove and why do you say it is "funny"? Thanks for giving us this wonderful insight into how your brain works. We will be watching for you the next time you, er ah, that guy wears that shirt... |
Jimidan
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 12:32 pm: |
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GL,
By the way jim, good to see that you got past that speaking in the third person thing. i was worried!
Thanks, but it was just a reaction...they were talking about me like I wasn't even in the room!
jimidan} |
Greenlantern
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 12:52 pm: |
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Thanks, but it was just a reaction...they were talking about me like I wasn't even in the room!
Cyber snobs, I would make a comment but then I would be racist. |
Blake
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 01:19 pm: |
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I'm still wondering what it means to be ">REALLY, >REALLY white". |
Greenlantern
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 01:28 pm: |
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I'm still wondering what it means to be ">REALLY, >REALLY white".
Just a guess?!? |
Xbrad9r
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 01:31 pm: |
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i got two words for anyone who truly believes that Imus should have been fired...
Dave Chappelle |
Xbrad9r
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 01:49 pm: |
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if you put 100 people in a room with headphones on and played the exact words Don Imus said, but told them it was an African American talkshow with an African American that was speaking and then asked them for their feedback.
then bring in 100 more people and do the same thing except this time tell them it is a white person who has his own radio show and the reporter was also white making the comment and then gauge the reaction.
IF IT IS WRONG FOR ONE PERSON TO SAY IT...IT IS WRONG FOR ALL !!!
the double standard is what pisses me off
the comments i made earlier in this post were wrong, so i removed them. |
Nedwreck
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 01:52 pm: |
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Not even Albinos are really, really white.
No one is. No one is absolutely black, either.
We're all shades of brown.
I wonder what would happen if all the idiots who hate over skin tone would stop being idiots for one day and look at what's really wrong with this world we share. The really important things that need fixing in the worst way.
Thus endeth the lesson, Praise "Bob"!
Bob |
Court
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 03:50 pm: |
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>>>>the double standard is what pisses me off
Kinda what I was thinkin' last night when the dude singing on VH-1 suggested "die ••••••• honky".
I felt "scared for life".
I hope he gets fired from rapping. |
Buellinachinashop
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 04:33 pm: |
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This sums it up.......
"The most racist people are old black men! He went through real racism back them. He couldn't go through that "I-can't-get-a-cab" thing. Back then, he WAS the cab! A white man jump on his back, "Main Street!"
Chris Rock, Bigger and Blacker, 1999 |
Rainman
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 04:38 pm: |
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Gerald Ford, America's Whitest Man 1976 |
Jimidan
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 04:49 pm: |
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Have you ever seen the movie "White Chicks"...pretty funny stuff. Why did the humor work? Because they were making fun of the stereotypes of tall, leggy blondes. Can you imagine a movie where two white dudes dress up like "Black Chicks" and burn through some "Oh no you di-n't" humor? Why wouldn't the humor work?
These issues should be part of the dialogue that is going on right now in this country...but they are not.
jimidan |
Xbrad9r
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 05:14 pm: |
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there is a phrase i am sure you have all heard before, called "playing the race card"...the reason the dialogue you are referring to J-dan will not take place, is because that would be like turning in the "race card" so that you couldn't play it again later when you needed it.
My personal opinion and if i am wrong for expressing it, then one of the adminastrators can remove the following statement...
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have two of the biggest "s#!t stirring stick's" in America and always stir enough to get it really stinky but not hard enough to get it on themselves...i think they were stinking up the Duke "rape" scandal when it started, but i don't think they ever apologized did they after the truth came out. |
Court
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 06:01 pm: |
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Don't be dissing leggy blondes and make me come have to hurt you . . . I live in a city plum chuck full of'em. . .
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Pammy
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 06:04 pm: |
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Maybe in order to be part of the club your ancestors would have had to suffer through centuries of being treated as beasts."
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"Nonetheless, in colonial and early-19th century America, as elsewhere in the world, women commonly were regarded as inferior beings. Their children, property, and earnings belonged by law solely to their husbands, and various legal and social barriers made divorce almost unthinkable. In most respects American women were legally on a par with criminals, the insane, and slaves."
(Black MEN were free and were allowed to vote by this time)
Now I am not complaining that women have it bad these days, but I would just like to add some relativity to the conversation. Everyone can claim "victim" for some injustice that has been done to 'one's people' at some point in history.
By the way...the comments on the Imus radio show, were quoted from a Spike Lee movie called School Daze. A musical about predjudice between light-skinned and dark-skinned african americans.
Personally, I don't want to be in a club that is "allowed" to demonstrate predjustice against another without question.
Of course...everyone knows that boys have cooties!(and they stink) (even the smilies are de-segregated...) |
Buellinachinashop
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 06:50 pm: |
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Hey? I'm Imus
(Message edited by BuellinaChinashop on April 14, 2007) |
Chainsaw
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When white men start griping about reverse discrimination, I pretty much gotta leave the room. It's an absurd idea.
In my elementary and middle school in Memphis, TN, white folks accounted for 2% of the student body. Kids hated me because of the color of my skin. Those kids used the N word liberally, and had no qualms about insulting my racial heritage. At 10 years old, what had I done in my short life to deserve this kind of treatment? I suspect if you had a similar experience, you would gain some first hand perspective and KNOW that reverse discrimination exists.
During the Civil War, there were about 350,000 slave owners in America, and about 350,000 Union Soldiers died fighting to free them, out of about 2.2 million who served. Why do some folks see a white man as a descendant of a slave owner, and not the descendant of a freedom fighting abolitionist, when it's six times more likely my ancestors fought to free slaves???? |
Nevrenuf
| | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 07:41 am: |
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some people just want to live in the past in stead of just remembering it so it doesn't happen in the future. |
Johnnylunchbox
| | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 08:33 am: |
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Someone mentioned Howard Stern... HS and his staff have used the N word before, but believe it or not the term was used academically, for lack of a better term. On their show the term has never been used to refer to any person. The evil does not lie in the mere act of uttering the word. The evil lies in the hate when it is directed at a person and the underlying malicious intent is obvious. |
Johnnylunchbox
| | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 08:39 am: |
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Chainsaw, there is no such thing as reverse discrimination. It is just plain discrimination. Everybody is affected by it - some more than others. Hate knows no color. Using the term "reverse" to me kind of implies that only white people should be doing the hating, and any hate that is returned because of that is somehow justified. Not sure if I said that right. |
Blake
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Even in jest, even with a smiley, at no time will I ever perceive as acceptable the referring to any woman as a "ho", certainly never in a public forum.
If it were me, I'd be editing that post to remove that comment. |
Buellinachinashop
| | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 10:11 am: |
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Done.
(Message edited by BuellinaChinashop on April 14, 2007) |
Regkittrelle
| | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 10:39 am: |
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Good threads eventually reach a point where anything more said is simply "me to-ism." The 'lunchbox's last two posts effectively sums and states. |
Ryker77
| | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 10:53 am: |
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Jimidan says "Hey, nobody gave this red-neck homophobe ...."
So it's ok to bash on a white person and use racist comments. But dare somebody to say nappy? |
Chainsaw
| | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 11:47 am: |
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...It is just plain discrimination.
Good point! My experiences make me especially intolerant of double standards...speaking of which...
I'm curious why Imus apologized to Sharpton/on Sharpton's show? It's not like the Reverend apologized to the Duke Lacrosse team. IIRC, he was involved in a protest within days of their accusation. In fact, 80 or so Duke faculty members took out a full page ad in the local paper condemning the team. I wonder if they spent the dough to print a heart felt "sorry".
Shortly after the initial accusations, a town meeting was held near Duke. A young lady stood up and told the crowd, "You know what would happen if this story involved a black man and a white woman." Matter of fact, I do know. As I recall, Kobe Bryant was accused of rape a year earlier, and as I recall, he was widely regarded as 'innocent until proven guilty'. It seems no one was willing to give Lacrosse players the benefit of the doubt. Was it because they play Lacrosse and not basketball, because of their skin color, or because of their 'social status'?
I have a great amount of respect for the late Dr. Matin Luther King Jr. He was a man who truly believed in equality. I find myself wondering what this country would be like if the bullet had missed him nearly 40 years ago. I'm fairly certain he would have nothing to do with the modern day Sharpton, Jackson, and the NAACP. That organization was taking out full page ads in the 1960's condemning MLK for his 'radical' views on desegregation. I think it's odd that a group that turned their backs on him while he was alive, are so quick to praise him now that he's gone....but I digress.. |
Becksbuell
| | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 04:03 pm: |
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At the start of this thing did we catch a glimpse of Snuffy? Where'd he go? Rotzaruck thinks maybe he's his cousin.
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Ezblast
| | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 04:08 pm: |
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Jimidan
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 09:27 am: |
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Note: "red-neck homophobe" is NOT race or gender specific in my dictionary. I calls 'em like I see's 'em. FYI, there are black red-neck homophobes.
So there |
Jimidan
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 09:30 am: |
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I don't know why folks try and compare the Imus issue and the Duke issue... |
Ryker77
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 10:12 am: |
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So nappy hair could also be claimed NOT race or gender specific by jimidan's dictionary.
The Duke case was an issue becuase the media and the Jackson/Sharpton crew inserted color into the justice system. |
Frankfast
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 10:23 am: |
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I think the Duke players may have inserted race into the sex issue.
(Message edited by frankfast on April 15, 2007) |
Nevrenuf
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 11:02 am: |
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should my friend back in pitts be offended by the nappy hair remark when he is totally white but has nappier hair than most black people out there as does his father and uncle and it is not a perm either. |
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