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Jwhite601
| | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 03:18 pm: | 
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I like points.
Which part? Changing them every 5000 miles or adjusting them every 500? LOL  |
Jwhite601
| | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 03:21 pm: |
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In a best case scenario, the carb will be "as good" as the F.I. But best case scenarios only happy to the lucky ones.
So that begs me to ask "You feeling lucky today" |
Panhead_dan
| | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 06:27 pm: |
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I like points.
Which part? Changing them every 5000 miles or adjusting them every 500? LOL
The part where they can be adjusted with a leatherman and a matchbook cover. And the $5.95 ticket price.
Seriously, We are going through a transition period from the old (points and carbs) to the new (electronics that never need anything) and we are not through it yet. That is to say, the electronics we have now are still in the developement stages. Yes, I still miss points and carbs sometimes. Mostly when I'm pushing a fairly new bike home that would be running if it were not for an electronic glitch. I would trade that experience for an adjustment every 500. There are vehicle manufacturers using much more advanced hardware and it's just a matter of time till our bikes have it. Till then, I have a leatherman. Anybody got a book of matches? |
Glitch
| | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 07:17 pm: |
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I'll have you know I am 100% organic, not electronic. Thanks you very much! 
I guess it's a matter of what one has had the most trouble with. I miss not having to carry an extra set of points with me. I miss not having to adjust anything.
I had an old Yamaha 650 with dual points, what a pain in the ass that was.
I used to play with VW Bugs as well (the air cooled kind) and one of the first things I did whenever I bought one was to swap to electronic ignition.
My XB has had no such electronic gremlins. |
Cgocifer
| | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 07:49 pm: |
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No gremlins here either. My dad, who is 62, races flat track. He junked his points on his both of his vintage flat-trackers for electronic ignition. My brother also races flat track. He too switched to electronic ignition on his vintage bike. His other bike, a YZ450F already has EFI obviously. |
Ezblast
| | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 08:12 pm: |
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Del Orto makes downdrafts - had dual 48mm for my 70 bug (Rhyno trans - type 4 eng w/2400cc kit ) - and they sold a 52mm as well, an adjustable ignition from Crane Cams and you'd be on your way!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
(Message edited by ezblast on April 07, 2007) |
Cgocifer
| | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 09:41 pm: |
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All this talk about this conversion... What a waste of time and money! Why de-engineer something that has taken untold amounts of engineering, research, testing, and manufacturing, all of which were done to improve reliability and performance? The XB may have an engine that uses antiquated push-rod valve modulation, but then again, so does the Corvette. I don't see GM going back to carbs on what is the most powerful, most reliable, and quickest Corvette series ever. As someone with engineering experience, I agree with the old saying, "If it aint broke, don't fix it!" |
46champ
| | Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 12:08 am: |
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If your going to reengineer the induction system for a downdraft carb just use a HOLLY 2 barrel they come in various flow rates up to 650 cfm guaranteed to over carburet any V-twin |
Brumbear
| | Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 10:06 am: |
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I don't want a carb but I sure wish someone could stop my machine from popping back through the airbox it is really F'ing anoying as it doesn't happen all the time and 3 different times it went through so called diagnostics at this point I don't care what it is after a $10,000 sticker I want it running right or gone |
Glitch
| | Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 10:20 am: |
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If you're "blipping" the throttle, stop.
Not sure why I used to do this, probably a left over from my other bikes (this is my first FI bike), so, if you're at a stop, and you have the habit of "blipping", it will cause a "hiccup." |
Xbullet
| | Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 11:55 am: |
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Why de-engineer something that has taken untold amounts of engineering, research, testing, and manufacturing, all of which were done to improve reliability and performance?
due to epa and dot regulations, the bike is only "engineered" so much. it has to be de-tuned from its potential to satisfy government regulators and tree huggers. i bought the bike knowing it would run better once de-epa'ed and de-dot'ed.
there is a line you can toe where performance is enhanced and reliability is not hurt. stock does not toe this line. stock perhaps can see it, but does not toe it.
so stock is fine. stock performs well. but when the bike is breathing and burning in the optimal sense instead of the dumbed down "let's not cause global warming or make too much noise" sense, you can have a true respect of what it was engineered to do.
if it was easy, it wouldn't be cool.  |
Brumbear
| | Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 11:55 am: |
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I will tell ya what It makes sense when this happens but it shouldn't period. If it does there is a problem in road situations especially city driving you have to blip the throttle on start stop restarts and all over the place. I have friends with FI bikes that do not do this 2,3,and 4 cyl. bikes so again I say if they can't fix it its gone. |
Cgocifer
| | Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 11:56 am: |
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+1^
I stopped the blipping habit and the coughing stopped as well. Also, after about 2200 miles, it smoothed out quite a bit. Runs perfect now except for the occasional popping on throttle shut off (probably due to the race ecu). |
Panhead_dan
| | Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 01:40 pm: |
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And another thing -
what ever happened to fuel petcocks? I liked those things. I used to get laid often because the bike would mysteriously quit while passing a secluded spot along the river..... |
Glitch
| | Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 01:58 pm: |
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Dan, we still have a kill switch... |
Kowpow225
| | Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 09:24 pm: |
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Xbullet
| | Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 06:25 pm: |
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what ever happened to fuel petcocks? I liked those things. I used to get laid often because the bike would mysteriously quit while passing a secluded spot along the river.....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! turn the gas on dummy! (not so dumb now, huh?) 
a lot of folks don't know what it's like to take off and have yer bike sputter to a stop in the middle of the parkin' lot.
Glitch -- exactly!! for some things we do have to change with the times, i guess....
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Brumbear
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 06:42 pm: |
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I do and I have a bone stock xb12ss the thing has a mind of its own |
Cgocifer
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 09:04 pm: |
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Fuel petcocks are fine... for dirt bikes. |
Cycleaddict
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 11:43 am: |
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a "manual" reserve would be a good thing. (sputter, sputter ,cough, spit,sputter, sputter,... hit the ol' reserve & head for the nearest gas .) |
Punkid8888
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 02:58 pm: |
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hey my old Yamaha had electronic switch for the reserve. right with the controls on the handle bars, and that was 1987 technology, I loved it. I ran it till it sputtered everytime then just flicked a switch and find a gas station |
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