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Sanchez
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 07:38 am: | 
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> i would seriously consider getting a uly
As another M2 + Uly owner, I have to say I like the Uly better. It's just so damned comfortable, and I love the luggage space. I ride my M2/XB/S1 mutant so little these days that I'm actually considering selling it. |
Sshbsn
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 08:12 am: |
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Ahhh, that's why Ferris called it the "thong." I had assumed it had something to do with the overall minimalist nature of the S1. I REALLY like the white S1 for sale out in California in the classified forum right now--it's just like the first Buell I ever saw, the one that got me hooked. It has a Corbin seat added, and I had toyed with the idea of flying out and riding it back to Florida if it's still around when my HD sells. I spend a lot of time on mountain and road bicycles, neither known for plush seats, but I don't know how a motorcycle trip across the country on a "suppository" would turn out. Say, is that what the "S" in "S1" stands for?? |
Djkaplan
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 08:53 am: |
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"...i stayed up with quite a few of those guys on xb's up there at march badness on my m2."
Yeah... and he did it two-up. Nevrenuf's got some kind of uberM2.
I'm starting to think M2s are the best motorcycles Buell has ever produced, not just the best tube framers. |
Djkaplan
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 09:14 am: |
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.. and I kept up with XB'ers on my M2 ..
I went on an epic run (for me) up Blood Mountain (my favorite N. Georgia road), and kept up with a real hotshot on an XB.
It was a thrill to ride my M2 that fast, but it was like climbing down a tree... carrying an anvil.
I love that bike! |
Ratbuell
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 09:18 am: |
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Tatood - you've got a couple great looking bikes there! I'm about halfway to where you are with my S1W - I am 6'4" and the stock bars were a bit tight, so I put on a set of the Crossroads clip-on bars and that gave me a ton of room in the seat. I'm considering the rearsets - how are they for longer rides? I can do 3-4hrs at a stretch (full tank, no stops) with no problem now, wondering if the rearsets rotate the body too far onto the tummy... I've also done the header wrap - BOY, does my right knee thank me for that one!!  |
Tattoodnscrewd
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 02:06 pm: |
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Ratbuell - the rearsets are a bit extreme IMO .. and with that I would rather have the Crossroads style bars - I have true clip-ons, and with the degree of downward angle- it's a bit obnoxious... I find with clip-ons though - rearsets are needed , it puts you in a better, more balanced position ..
As far as longer rides with clip-ons and rearsets .. I can't speak for everyone as I have a permanent disability in one wrist and a partial in the other .. broke them both when younger and had surgery to correct one(my throttle hand) - now I am 33 with arthritis already ... A few of us did a 150 mile ride yesterday, and unless we were going fast or actually in the corners - I was a bit uncomfortable. So for me - the setup is not suited for more than a couple hundred miles ... 3-4 hour stretches will be a ... stretch .. (forgive the pun), unless you take a break every hour or so ... Now - on my M2 I can do 8 hours without worry....
DJ - isn't it a cool feeling ? |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 02:23 pm: |
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That seat might not be Japanese comfort zone, but it ain't that bad. The problem with most S1 owners is they've lived a spoilt past life, lol.
I've ridden to Monaco via Belgium, France, Switzerland, Italy, and back again. The S1W seat is like a sofa compared to my old hardtail Triumph chop I enjoyed in my twenties.
Rocket |
Ulywife
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 02:28 pm: |
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whats the word on the uly as far as getting it fixed up.
I talked to the dealer yesterday about the estimate. Because it's an insurance claim, they listed EVERYTHING that had even a small scratch on it. You can just imagine what the total amount was since the Uly visited pavement, gravel and trees. I had to go to the dealer and see the estimate, look at the parts book and get my hands on the bike to see all that they were seeing. Needless to say, I started marking parts off the estimate left and right. Called Carlos and told him that the bike was just as we had figured it. Only "structure" issues were belt (frayed against belt guard),hand controls, mirrors, foot peg mount (broken) and the bags (all three took a hit). Other than that, it was cosmetic. They were listing both wheels, tires, swing arm, both frame pucks, grab bars, handle bars just to name a few!
Once the adjuster gets out to see the bike we're going to knock quiet a few items off the list. After all, it's an on/off road bike. Scratches build character, right? The bike has been sitting at the dealer for 2 weeks and started with the first try. The tires are holding air. If it had hand controls, it could have come home by now.
It is truly a tank. Now starts the fun of dealing with the adjuster. Hope he's ready to talk, because I have a plan!
So, are you heading to Beulltoberfest in October? Don't you hear the GA mountains calling your name again? |
Nevrenuf
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 02:48 pm: |
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i hope you can get away with out it hitting you to hard. been there done that a couple of times, actually 3, dealing with a hit bike though. more and more considering what it would be like to get a uly. as far as being up there for october, i'm waiting on final confirmation on a job up in chattanooga, which means i'll already be up there if this happens. and steve, bottom line is you see how many different people like the different models for what ever reason it is, bottom line, buells rule because they aren't the cookie cutter bikes out there, and every one makes them their own. |
Sanchez
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 04:07 pm: |
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> foot peg mount (broken)
Which side was it? I broke my right side peg mount in a low speed fall, and that was an expensive mistake.
The gigantic subframe piece is $160 to replace. |
Ulywife
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 04:49 pm: |
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Yep - replaced the left side when he went down on ice and now it's the right side. It is an expensive piece, but totally necessary when you ride 2 up. His broke where the passenger peg and bag frame attach. |
Rick_a
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 06:06 pm: |
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quote:A tuber seems to be the type of bike I'm looking for, maybe a little primitive by today's standards, but very fun and rewarding to own. If they need work sometimes, it's alright.
With that attitude I think you'd get along with one quite well.
With the handling deal I've always found that tubers have always required less steering effort and more body language to change direction, and while they are fairly flickable, they are much less stable at high cornering load/big lean angle conditions. Ya have to just keep a loose hold and roll with it. Tightening a line mid corner corner is also a situation where an XB shines, and a tuber may need a little extra room to be stood back up a little before dipping in tighter. Overall I think a good rider can be just as quick on a tuber, it just takes more work. One thing I know for a fact is that tubers crash better.
I've done one 1500 mile trip on the S1. About 500 miles a day is all I could tolerate having clip-ons and pegs raised 1". The first day was fun. The second day was tolerable. The third day was torture. A single 400-500 mile day is no problem, though, and I've done a few of those, as well as 200-300 mile days haulin' through swoopy backroads. That's where it really shines. Overall it fit me best out of all the Buells and I get the same feeling riding it today as I did when I first rode it. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 06:42 pm: |
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I'm running a M2L with S3T fairing & bars. Tubers are more raw than the XB's, less refined.
I've considered swapping the suspension for the Inverted, tall stuff, but I can put both feet flat, and I've only gone through 2 sets of boots. ( I grind the sides of the soles off in corners, but seldom touch the pegs. big feet, bowlegged ) Got Torque? Yes. The rest of the race kit goes on, when the snow stops, and cams & headwork are in the works for next winter. I won't go to X1 cams, since I purely love the low end grunt, so it looks like 585's with like stock timing are in order.
The Fairing & Seat are my shot at a simple sport tourer, & it works good. I do want to stop & have a pop when I fill up, but that lets me say my wimpyness is really just good hydration practice.
The S1's are like old Sportster's. If someone rides cross country on one, he's either insane, desperate, or way more hard core than I. Thong is right. OTOH, the original Lightning is zero compromises. Even more than a M2, if it don't make it go, it's not there. The look is unique, love or hate it.
The week after I bought my M2, I was bopping down a country road in Rush, NY. I remembered a nice 's' turn through an orchard, and being good on the break in, was doing 55 mph. when I hit the first turn, ( marked for 20, but that's NY traffic engineers for ya ) as I rounded the second turn, I see that a truck load of apples had been dumped. Applesauce & tire tracks, ditch to ditch. I always kept 2 fingers on the front brake, so, after a swear word, I panicked and grabbed hard. My first stoppie followed, while leaned over. 55 to 30. A twitch, bounce the rear wheel off the ground while the bike went upright, another grab, another stoppie, and I'm parked just before the applesauce. I pat the tank, and told her "I'm keeping you.". I can't take any credit for not crashing. It's all the Buell. |
Nevrenuf
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 07:41 pm: |
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you said a mouthful aesquire |
Eengler2
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 09:00 pm: |
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Sshbsn, If you like the look of an S1 and the versatility of the M2. Do what I did make an M2 more naked!
Before:
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Sshbsn
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 09:26 pm: |
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Eengler2--
That's a sweet bike! You have pics of it somewhere else in here, because I've already admired it. I see on your profile you've also got a CB750. I rode a '76 for a couple of years at Univ. Texas and count that bike as one of my three favorites.
I like what you've done with your M2. It's very much a toss-up between that and an S1 for me. Handling differences aren't much of an issue; here in SW FLA we don't really have curves, although there are some sprinkled throughout other parts of the state. I've gotten the feeling from this thread that the M2 is built with more consistent quality. The other feeling I've gotten is that I really don't need to worry too much which one I choose, I'll enjoy either one. I was able to cross the X1 off the list (no offense anyone), and I thank everybody for all of their help with this.
The HD ad comes out in the paper starting tomorrow, hopefully it goes quickly. It's always painful selling a bike, and the Super Glide is good at what it does.
After about 30 seconds of mourning its loss, I'll be shopping for the best S1 or M2 in my price range! |
Sanchez
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 10:49 pm: |
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> One thing I know for a fact is that tubers crash better.
I'll second that. |
M2nc
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 01:21 am: |
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> One thing I know for a fact is that tubers crash better.
I do not know about that. I have ridden the M2 and Uly about the same mileage. The Uly is up 3-0. |
Rick_a
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 01:31 am: |
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X-frames always get their frames, swingarms, subframes, foot controls, footpegs, and bodywork tore up in a tumble.
Compare that to the price of a similar get off on a tuber. Far less damage, far less $$, much more likely that you can ride it away.
I see wrecks quite often. |
Bad_karma
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 07:36 am: |
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fact tubers crash better. Two out three falls at 60 plus was able to ride home. Included a 250 mile trip in WV mountains. Both S1 and S3.
Joe |
Eengler2
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 11:02 am: |
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I see on your profile you've also got a CB750. I rode a '76 for a couple of years at Univ. Texas and count that bike as one of my three favorites.
Yeah the 750 is good old school (for me) fun! Mine needs a little work to make it great again, but it's fun to ride around on an almost 30 year old bike. |
Sanchez
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 09:53 pm: |
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I got the nugget out pretty much for the first time this year. I'd really forgotten how much fun it is to ride. It's just so completely uncivilized.
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Crashm1
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 11:39 pm: |
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The X1 is "mildly" cammed from the factory and responds nicely to inlet AND exhaust changes that free up its breathing
BTW like the S2 the X1 has a removable side plate built into the frame to ease rear iso / belt drive service issues.
the EFI is not to bad once a Race ECM is installed.
The EFI adds a little complexity to things
they are easier ( the tubers as a whole ) then the XB bikes to work on,
Ditto that. Until two weeks ago I had an X1 that got the race kit, SE536 cams and Millenium stage 2 heads. Really fun, really easy to work on and had a prodigous appetite for rear tires.
To continue the echo. My bike and I left quite a few better motorcycles for dead when we hit the twisty stuff, sure it flexed and wriggled about but it told you exactly what was happening at the contact patch. |
Rick_a
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 09:45 pm: |
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Chuck Graves said back in 1997 that his race-prepped S1 was the most stable motorcycle he ever raced. High praise indeed (in that time, anyway!) |
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