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Djkaplan
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 02:18 pm: | 
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"So then the answer to the question is. . .When you fall over and hear a bunch of scraping sounds and feel a slight burn on your skin, too fast."
Not always. Sometimes you're thrown clear of the bike and into the air. If you stick the landing, you can avoid the skin burn altogether.
Of course, the sudden stop from the landing is another can o' worms... |
Terribletim
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 02:43 pm: |
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Oh yea, I overlooked that. "Tuck & Roll - Tuck & Roll!!!" |
Drfudd
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 07:18 pm: |
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so how much of a newbie am I?
well I have taken the beginners MSF course and in two weeks I am taking the expert course. I have put close to 800 miles on my bike in 2.5 months of riding.
The only corner I feel comfortable pushing it hard on thus far is one particular corner I drive everyday home from work, its a left hand corner so if I slide I won't slide into another lane and I always look ahead and can see far past the corner. I know the pavement is smooth and free of potholes and I never had a problem with debris, unlike other corners which I come to which have debris and pot holes, I go real slow on those.
Ok so I need an explanation or maybe a picture, but what are "chicken strips"
My tires are pretty even with only about a 1/4 inch of untouched rubber on each side, I haven't had my pegs scraping, just my big ass Harley boots!
As far as what I do when I come to a new corner I can't help but revert to my instinct in a car and slow down to what I would feel comfortably doing in my SUV. |
Metalstorm
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 07:44 pm: |
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Ok so I need an explanation or maybe a picture, but what are "chicken strips"
You kinda answered your own question 
"Chicken strips" are the strips of untouched rubber along the edge of the tire. |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 08:34 pm: |
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Nick, it's also worthwhile riding in a pair of sports boots. You'll get a better feel of what the bikes chassis is doing, through your feet, if you have lightweight boots on your feet.
A good example of this is when the S1's first came out they had rubber Sportster pegs as stock fitting. The difference in handling by fitting a pair of billet foot pegs is like night and day. You need to feel that bike under your feet. Trust me, junk the Harley boots if they're like those Willie G engineering boots or something similar to what Stormtroopers wear.
Rocket |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 09:00 pm: |
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Stormtroopers?
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Glitch
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 11:09 pm: |
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Is Pete permanently paralyzed?
Well, he can't walk by himself.
He has a lay down trike he can pedal, and he can stand by himself if he's holding on.
He hasn't control of all the muscles one needs to walk. |
Justin_case
| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 12:46 pm: |
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Pull your inside foot back 'til the ball of your foot is on the peg. Boots won't drag! |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 04:24 pm: |
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The ball of your foot should always be on the peg, but big boots still won't help anyone feel what the bike is really doing. Drive your car with bare feet and you'll know instantly what I'm telling you is for real.
Glitch, sorry to hear about Pete. That's an awful picture of the fella, and one we should all see as a reminder as to what can go wrong. Wish him well from me.
Rocket |
Glitch
| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 05:14 pm: |
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I'll do it Sean.
I'm sure he'll reply in kind. |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 07:43 pm: |
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Thank you.
Rocket |
M1combat
| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 11:30 pm: |
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I think at 800 miles you might do well to research proper lines. If you aren't a race fan the term may be unfamiliar to you so try here...
http://phors.locost7.info/phors17.htm
Read Ch5 first if that seems greek .
I only mention proper lines because it's very important IMO, whether going fast or slow, to have a mental expectation of where you want to go and be. Once you know the shape of a turn (NEVER go fast around a turn you've never been around) you can make those decisions before you get there and then just concentrate on the squirrel that's going to run out and stop on your line. It will also help you to be smooth and that's both safe and fast. |
M1combat
| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 11:40 pm: |
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I believe this to be the most pertininet quote from Article 18 , but it's up to you to learn why...
"Note that this does not involve changing the entry to the corner other than by slowing down! There is no trail braking or lifting-while-turning or other risk-taking going on at corner entry. There is a very important driving lesson, here: to go faster, it is not necessary to take risks on corner entry. It is, in fact, both safer and faster just to slow down on the entry. The improved exit will follow naturally from the combination of looking far ahead and of being smooth. And that's not even fair!" |
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