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     Bliker |
I have an 04 Tiger 955 and will be getting a new bike in the next year. It will probably be the new Tiger 1050 or the Uly. I haven't had the chance to ride the Uly yet, but that should change in the next month. I was wondering how the triple compares to the Vtwin on the highway. Does it do good at speeds of 75-85 mph. I really like the belt drive and extra storage on the uly. | ||
| Old_mil |
I've never ridden a Triumph - but the Uly does fantastic at speeds of 75-85 on the highway...you can cruise down the road all day long at those speeds. A fantastic bike. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I would say that the Tiger and the Uly are probably two of the closest bikes out. The Tiger will be smoother at lower RPMs. I haven't had a chance to ride the new Tiger. The Uly is very smooth at highway speeds. I was noticing the other day that I feel more in the way of seams in the road or small rocks than I do the engine. Ride both. You'll know instantly. | ||
| Stevenknapp |
Man, that's a tough one. Looking at the two, I'd have a hard time choosing myself. The Tiger as I understand it has a bit more oomph, but the Uly is by no means underpowered. I've run 75-85 all day long trying to make it home from NC before dark.  | ||
| Metalstorm |
I don'tenvy you that decision. Both are really nice. If I was able to buy a new bike right now it would an Uly. But mainly so I could be the proud owner of the shortest production XB (12Scg) and the tallest. What can I say, I'm an extremist  Different power ranges simply require different riding style so the difference in engines is a moot point I think. I can't remember if the Tiger has the exhaust on the side or under the tail. I know that the Uly with the exhaust under the bike allows a lot of space in the side cases. I guess it boils down to whether you want a hella nice Buell or a hella nice Triumph. There is no wrong or bad choice here. | ||
| Treadmarks |
I have had both. They are both very nice bikes, but it depends on what you plan to do with them. The 01 955i Tiger was my fav at the time. I put a on a thunderbike pipe, thunderbike crash bars with folding off road pegs mounted to the the crashbars for cruising pegs, one of those auto chain oilers with the touring resivoir that was good for 5000 miles. Ya have to get the new software installed from the dealer, and most of the dealers around here don't know sheit about tigers. I bought the hardley nightrain new, and had to sell the tiger.  The train was too heavy and way underpowered, so it took alot of mods to bring it up to par. Which the supercharger did, by the way. I bought an XR650L used, cause I missed the tiger so much. But then I spent mucho dollars on it to do the supermoto conversion. Thats when the Uly came out. It was like part tiger, part hardley, and part XR. I was in love, before even riding it.  But once I bought the Uly, I never looked back. It sounds and pulls like a harley should. It is flickable in traffic and can take a mean bump like the XR. It can go over unimproved roads all day long and then blast the curves like a crotch rocket, even passing a few rockets and supermotos on the dragon when we took the short cut back to the cabin. And after all that fun, my arse wasn't sore, and the wife on the back had a blast. And we got 54 mpg average for that weekend. The bike is super easy to work on, and new mods pop up everyday. For performance, the American Sport Bike openair kit, race ECM and pipe of your choice are all a drop in with a tps reset. My tiger had valve adjustments from hell, a chain that liked to drip on my garage floor, very expensive parts/upgrades, and limited technical proficiency from the dealers. All in all, they are both great bikes. Ride them both-like you plan to ride them. Then buy what makes you happy. | ||
| Dave |
The Buell took me away from an '01 955i Tiger. http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10 7187 Hands down the Buell is superior. DAve | ||
| Treadmarks |
+1 for what the Davester said. | ||
| Danger_dave |
I don't agree that the Buell is 'hands down' superior to the New 1050 tiger. The Buell is better at some things I like to do on a motorcycle, but the Tiger is a MUCH (Like a LOT) faster bike - and that pushes lots of peoples buttons. The new Tiger stunts as well, and has NO vibration anywhere in the rev range. It also has shims, cam chains and a floppy final drive chain like the last models. But overall both bikes have great merit. But what would I choose?? Just posted this on ADV too [QUOTE=Django Loco]Nice pics Dave! How did the Tiger compare with the Fazer (FZ-1) ?? :ear[/QUOTE] 'Err - we've messed up. We brought the wrong bike back from Ventura, they haven't measured up for the headlight protectors for the Tiger, you interested in riding it back down and coming back on the Fazer?' enquired Vege. 'Is the Pope Catholic?' I ‘wittily’ retorted.  Kiwi Rider office to Hamilton in 140km - mostly dual carriageway on State Highway One - if you are in a hurry. I wasn’t and exited the City of Sails via the some of God’s own sports bike roads on State Highway 22 - and let the Tiger do some work over the Rangiriri Road.  This is one potent machine. Wonderful engine, great ergos, super comfort, pretty good handling, brakes, it’s just a peach. Too much bodywork for me – but that’s personal taste. One of the best engines in a road going motorcycle. Put one on the test ride list – it does everything well. Swapped it for the Fazer.  I said ‘pretty good’ handling for the Tiger – because I rode this thing immediately after it. Road holding and stability are outstanding. Found it quite comfy and took a serious detour around the Waikato Lakes area and through the Hunua ranges and the way home. Interesting engine – almost like there are 2 personas – under 7,500 RPM and it’s quite unremarkable – the Tiger will eat it in top gear roll ons – Over 7,500 rpm and it’s beyond my skill level and the absence of a race track to tell the difference from an R1 – it’s all happen’ mighty quick baby. Why I would actually ‘need’ a machine that does 125kph @ 12,000rpm – in first gear - I don’t know, but it’s a lot of fun. (The national speed limit is 100kph). Quite nice to look at and another very impressive bike. But not ‘me’ either. I could have kept it for the weekend. But since I have a Buell City – X press bike available – I took the Yam back to the office and grabbed the Buell.  It’s me. Too small really – but soo much fun without stretching the licence. Not like riding a machine – more like attaching a motor to your body. Wouldn’t be my choice to take the Mrs to the Sth Island, but as a weekend of mainly urban riding beckons the Buell gets the nod. All three bikes are very good at what the do and are designed for. I’d be happy with any of them in the shed. Just a matter of tastes and applications. -------------------------- I would still choose a Uly over the new Tiger again. But it's no hands down decision at all. (Message edited by danger_dave on March 01, 2007) | ||
| M2nc |
I really like the older Tiger. I do not like the looks of the new tiger. I would love to ride one but from what I have read the bike has a more powerful engine than the Uly and that's it. You know there are a lot of bikes faster than the Uly, if you are going to sway me away from a Uly, straight line speed is not going to do it for me. A bike with a shorter seat orientation, better heat management, Cruise Control and maybe an optional fairing for better wind protection in the winter. I guess that is it. I will not give up the responsive final drive, or the outstanding handling, of the room and comfort, or the luggage space, or the off-pavement abilities. All that said, the Uly in the barn will not be traded for a new Tiger. It is the perfect bike for me, even if I would improve those few things. | ||
| Buelltoys |
I like both bikes. Never been on a Tiger but it looks great. I fell in love with the Uly the day I saw it on the website. After I bought it would not trade for anything. The bike is what I need. Great for long hauls, short hauls and getting around my gravel driveway. For speeds around 75-85 the bike is great. I normally keep it around 85-90 unless I just want to gun it which I have taken up to 110-115. This is as fast as I want to go. If I wanted faster I would have bought an inline 4. Just my 2cents | ||
| Bliker |
Well, I found a dealer in Atlanta that has a couple of Ulys. The first two big HD dealers I called in the area said no Uly's in stock and none on order. That kind of surprised me, with the riding season getting started. I'm heading out in a little bit to look at them. | ||
| Roadrailer |
I can't say for sure, but I bet both bikes handle the highway equally well. There is one issue that immediately pops to mind looking at the new Tiger. The pillion has the same ass-high stance of the Sprint ST, which, according to my wife, was the most uncomfortable thing she had ever sat on. That pipe might affect a passenger as well. Take your SO along on the test ride (or test sit) if she's going to be spending any time back there. Pillion comfort, in the end, is what really sold me on the Uly. Other than that, the Tiger looks to be an awesome bike. (Message edited by roadrailer on March 02, 2007) | ||
| Bliker |
I would agree on the looks of the Tiger. It is an awesome looking bike. I'm also concerned with the height of the pillion. It looks like it might be uncomfortable and could create alot of turbulence for the passenger. Some of the things I like better about the Buell are the 1) pipe=more storage, 2) self adjusting valves=less maintenance $$$ 3) tubeless tires which my 04 doesn't have, and 4) no chain to mess with. The dealer network could be a problem, but I kind of have the same deal with the Triumph. | ||
| Danger_dave |
>>Never been on a Tiger but it looks great.<< Well, I actually bought a Buell instead of a Tiger because i can't get past the way a Tigger looks. Even the new ones still have the bulbous front end. I find the Buell an attractive to look at machine - the trump fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. Pillion accommodation on a tiger is as good as an XB. dd | ||
| Danger_dave |
>>according to my wife, was the most uncomfortable thing she had ever sat on. << yet rated by my Mrs as one of her preferred rides - It was me that was uncomfortable on it. Knees ached in 15 minutes. | ||
| Blake |
I score Danger Dave an A+ for objectivity! Thank you Danger Dave! We are mucho lucky to have you contributing here and I for one thank you. Just know that you can forget ever running for political office.  | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Bliker, Just make sure that they set the Uly suspension up for both 1-up and 2-up separately. They are distinctively different and are very sensitive. A poorly set up Uly could kill the deal or at least give you an inaccurate impression of the handling. | ||
| Gotj |
If you are keeping score, I test rode an 06 Tiger before testing an 06 Uly. I agree with all of the various comments about the ergo and engine (but not the aesthetics), and bought the Uly. I do understand the attractiveness of the Tiger so will be interested in your decision | ||
| Danger_dave |
Thank you Mr Blake. Very kind. dc | ||
| Danger_dave |
yes - FB states the obvious that we've missed too. I'm yet to find a bike that corners like the XB series. I had the luxury of riding my Uly then the New Tiger on and off all day. Any comparison I make that could be seen as in some way disparaging to the tiger is the problem. It's really, really good. Solid. But for sheer 'nimbleness' in a large motorcycle I haven't thrown a leg over anything better than the Buell. In a league of its own. That's it's Id. A multiple apex, downhill, tight left hander, where your face is over the front wheel and you're on the edge of traction and it's all about to break loose - but you know it won't - there's nothin' finer than going to that 'edge' place on the Buell. It's the mass centalization - damn that sh*t works. It has to be set up right to appreciate it fully. It hooked me completely under 100 miles. Now, my name's David and I'm a centrifugal force junkie.... (Message edited by danger_dave on March 03, 2007) | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Just curious. Looking at the above pics and notice that both the Triumph and Yamaha motors seem to take up less physical space and look lighter than the Buell engine. And both of those are water-cooled. I'm assuming (right or wrong??) that the upcoming Buell dirt bike will have a water-cooled Rotax engine?? Personally I think the Triumph looks real nice but am not a fan of any extra plastic. | ||
| Danger_dave |
Yep - they are both liquid cooled. They are bigger and longer chassis that the motors are sitting in (on the Yam and trump) and that contributes to a different motor to size of bike ratio. And yes - quite right - the new Tiger is a fetching looking machine - I was meaning the older units lookswise. Co-pilot says they have a nose like Gerrard Depardieu. cheers dd | ||
| Buellish |
Bliker,I saw a Red and Black Tiger going from Arnold Mill Rd. to Town Lake Pkwy. about 6:30 and thought it might be you untill I got home and looked at your profile again. Oh yea,I ride a Black Uly and live in Olde Town Woodstock. | ||
| Chadhargis |
I think the Tiger is a beautiful bike, but I don't have to ride one to know that I like my Ulysses better. The seating position is very much like that of a V-Strom. You sit down "in" the bike. Like Dave said, an XB Buell is like you sprouted an engine and wheels out of your butt. I just feel a lot more connected to the Uly. From day one my Uly felt very natural for me. Very easy to ride. | ||
| Bliker |
Buellish, That was probably me. The lucifer orange has a red tint to it, especially when it's dark out. I live on Arnold Mill near Trickum. |
