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Xbimmer
Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got my new Hellas, Lorazepam's http://www.ulytility.com light bar installed, working on the wiring tomorrow.

Is the front module a good ground point for the lamps and relays? I'm trying to keep my power supplies simple with a gang array under the seat and also in the front with local grounds.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 12:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used a grounding point in the left hand side of the front bay. I don't see that there would be any problem un using a grounding point in the front.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Ft_b, you've got your HID's grounded up front?

Someone here posted before a cool waterproof marine connection array, I'm thinking of installing one in the back for the electric clothing and one in the front for the aux lamps and grip heaters and stuff.

I was wondering whether the connection via the steering head bearings would be sufficient for a secure ground back to the battery.
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Routney
Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

using the bearings for a ground is a bad idea. you'll definitely want to go with wire.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have my HIDs grounded back to the battery. I have my grip heaters grounded at the front.

I have had no issues to date.

If you were really concerned about grounding, you could run a short grounding strap from the front fairing to the rear frame.

I don't think it's necessary, but if it helps you sleep at night.

I'm sure there will be dozens for folks who will tell me I'm wrong.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually, I take it back. I didn't negative ground in the front. Both the positive and negative leads are connected directly to the battery. I did connect the third ground lead to the front.

Sorry for the confusion. I do think that if you want to ground the negative lead up front you can, but you may want to use a short negative ground lead past the head to the frame body.

I have read articles about current induced bearing failure. I'm sure that it could happen, but your front head doesn't rotate at nearly the RPMs that an electric motor would. Bearing failure would be a much much slower process, and I doubt current induced pitting would have much if any effect.

It does make me wonder, though, if current could be playing some part in the fan bearing failures. We've been blaming the lubricant, seals, and contaminants.

I wonder......
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Maximum
Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Installed Polly grip heaters and the power lead for my GPS up front, both using the front fairing module for the ground. Everything is working great!
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Xbimmer
Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the tips!
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L_je
Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For what it's worth, I grounded my Dual Star grips (~36watts) to the horn attachment.

I read 0.4 ohms from the horn attachment to the battery negative, and, get this: 0.3 ohms from the negative cable to the battery terminal. So, at the expense of +0.1 ohms, I just grounded to where the horn bolts on.

With about 3000 miles after this mod, nothing has blown up, the battery has not discharged, and my grips are hot enough to melt my grip glue.

I may be adding some aux lighting soon, as I've had the last idiot pull out in front of me. They DO see me, because I can see THEM hesitate and pull off a couple of false starts before they finally commit. Maybe I don't need aux lighting, but an RF DeathRay, instead; but, alas, the RF ray would require that I pull a u-turn, and follow them for a few minutes to get the full effect. So, what can you do? Another kink in my plan is that continuous use of the RF DeathRay (~1.5kw) would undoubtedly require an alternator upgrade.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks again for the tips.

Just took a closer look, there's already a grounding point at the front of the steering head, or even the bolts/bosses for the R-bike fairing could be used.

Ordered an Autoswitch and should have this stuff operational soon. The Hella FF50's fit great on Lorazepam's bar, and should outperform the stockers even with the standard 55w H7's. The rep at Susquehanna MS suggested the Osram 65 Burner but these lamps are kind of small.

Pics coming!
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Hamlin
Posted on Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the info and i would love to save that much as you do.

Tommy Bahama Comforter
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