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Ferrolano
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will buy all the required software (and also provide the laptop) for setting/resetting the TPS in our XB12's if someone in the Denver-Boulder area is willing to teach me how to use it hands on. We could have a small workshop for all of the Buellers in the area at my place and share the tech and the how-to of this (and maybe other) service procedure. Let me hear from you!
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Hammer71
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sure there are people close to you that are willing to help out but if all else fails buy the software and give me a call I'll walk you through it step by step..Real easy to do. I do the same thing here. Having a fellow Bueller happy with their ride is payment enough and every once in a while they do a nice "stunt show" for you afterward complete with highside finalle.
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Isham
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why can't you live in Orlando???
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Cowtown
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Throttle Position Sensor (TPS)
Inspection:
1. Connect vehicle to Digital Technician
2. Select data monitor screen.
3. Select TP degrees on screen.
4. Ignition and run switch should be in the on position with the engine off and throttle in closed position.
5. If closed throttle TP degree reading is not between 5.2 - 5.6 degrees, TPS should be recalibrated. See adjustment below.

Adjustment:
1. Connect vehicle to Data Technician.
2. Select data monitor screen.
3. Select TP degrees screen.
4. Back off the idle adjustment until TPS is at 0 degrees and then continue to back out one to two additional turns.
5. Open and SNAP SHUT throttle control grip 2-3 times.

Note: This is to ensure that the throttle plate is completely closed before beginning recalibration.

6. Select calibrations screen.
7. Select Buell calibrations tab.
8. Select the Zero TPS function.

Note: When calibration is complete, dialog box will appear on Digital Tech screen with message to display "Command Sent Successfully" Select OK to continue.

9. Select data monitor screen.
10. Select TP degrees on screen.
11. Turn idle speed screw in until the TPS degree reading is between 5.2 -5.6 degrees.
12. Select RPM/Speed and Temperature on screen and start vehicle.
13. Run vehicle until engine temperature is 270 degrees F.
14. Set idle to 1050 - 1100 RPM
15. Adjustment is complete.
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Hammer71
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ish.. I was just down there a few weeks ago. Would have been no problem to hook you up.
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Ferrolano
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Hammer71 for your generous offer. I may take you up on it if no one comes forth in this neck of the woods--but I'm still hoping that Buellers in this area will respond to my post and take me up on my offer. It basically guarantees them free resets for life!
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Ftd
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Isham,

I live in Orlando and I probably will be getting the SW from American Sport Bike as I want freedom from dealerships. I'll let you know when I get it.
I live just south of downtown Orl. off Orange Ave.

frank
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Fcbuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm in (up in Fort Collins), give me a hollar when you are ready.
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Isham
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FTD thats awesome. You outa ride with us Sunday. Sunday morning rides are some of the best i've ever been on. I go with these pros that know orlando and the neighboring cities really well. PM me for more info.

Thanks Hammer I dont need a TPS reset now but it would be sweet to have that available when i need it.
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Destroy
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So is there no way to do a TPS adjustment with a simple V/Ohm meter and back probing the appropriate pins?
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Sik_s
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the software and will reset anyones if they come by Little Rock. Also the temperature reading should be 320' and the RPM should be between 1050-1150 according to Al's writeup of the VDSTS.
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Ferrolano
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FcBuell,
Thank you very much for volunteering. I will post a notice on this board as soon as I receive the software package so that others in the area can come by and take advantage of you how-to workshop. Just received a PM from another Bueller nearby who is very interested in learning the procedure. This afternoon or in the morning I'll put my order in.
Again, many thanks. I think we're going to have fun!
Ric
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Sgthigg
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If your in the S MS area. Hit me up I will do it for free also!, I will show you how to do it too..Its to easy with the right tools to do it yourself its almost a shame to charge someone. I do understand Dealerships got to charge to stay in business though.
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Kurosawa
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any freebies in Virginia?
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Ferrolano
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just spoke to Al at American Sport Bike. He was as helpful and confidence inspiring as usual. At any rate, the software and the microprocesor cable have been ordered. Everything should be here next Monday, so any time after that, FcBuell and others, we can get started. Bring your bikes and I'll provide the software and the refreshments. I'm really looking forward to this!!
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Davo
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a VDSTS in Blackstone, VA. I am only a couple of hours west on 460. Drop me a pm. I would be glad to do a tps reset and demonstrate the software. It only takes a couple of minutes.
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Dcmortalcoil
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I live in Arlington, VA in Ballston. I can do free TPS resets.
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Hogs
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Guys,
I`m just up the Border east Coast Canada,Hope ya all can come up and give me one of them Free TPS resets Thanks...

Nice INFO there Cowtown...
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Txfatcat
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I live in Humble Texas...I will do them as well for FREEEEEEEEEEEEE. I have a computer set up in my shop and have been doing them for months now. Just PM me
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Isham
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love this!!!
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Txfatcat
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think people are finally feed up with the local HD dealer trying to rape them. No offense Dave, You have been a pillar and a wealth of knowledge in this community. I was going to post something like this a couple of months ago when i got feed up but figured the timing wasnt right. Well i guess it is now!!!
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Tq_freak
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am really considering buying my own software, for all you guys that have it do you like it and would it be a good idea?
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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Destroy: nope, you have to access the ECM's programing to reset the TPS.
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Destroy
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>Destroy: nope, you have to access the ECM's programing to reset the TPS.

I see. But can one use a V\Ohm meter to at least check and see if a recalibration is needed or not? Surely 5.2% translates to a certain voltage value; this assumes the TPS is of a normal 5V reference signal design.
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Pcmodeler
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 07:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I didn't realize there were so many other guys from Virginia here.


I don't think it's so much a matter of feeling like I'm being raped by my local Harley dealer. It's more a matter of horrible service.

I took my bike in last year for a TPS reset. Since, it will suddenly seem like it is skipping a cycle, turning off and then turning back on. For the longest time, I thought it might be something else. However, a few weeks ago I was talking with an XB12R owner I know that is also a mechanic at the local Honda bike dealership. He had just put the race kit on his, took it to the same shop for a reset and his is doing the exact same thing now. That leads me to believe that they can't seem to properly reset the TPS.
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Mikexlr650
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"stunt show" yer killin me!

tires should be here any day.

hopefully the rain stops for tonight
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Al_lighton
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Derek,
It doesn't work that way. The voltage at any given position can be different from one throttle body/TPS sensor to the next. They'll be close, but not close enough.

The TPS works by setting your throttle plate to completely closed, then telling the ECM to read the voltage at that place. Everything else is based on offset from that voltage.

Absolute voltage is meaningless, relative voltage is how it works.

I do free TPS resets at the shop. Heck, I've even done free TPS resets on the road with my PDA. It would take longer to invoice it than it would to do the job. Shops charging $80 for such a job should be ashamed of themselves. I heard of one the other day that was going to charge $150.

Al
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Jens
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For the BWB Boardmembers who service at Spangdahlen Airbase (1/2h away from us). We offer also free TPS reset.

Because we are 50 days per year on the Tracks always contact us by e-mail when you like to come.

Jens
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Aeholton
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I live in Palm Harbor, FL (Tampa Bay area). Willing to provide free resets to anyone interested.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am really considering buying my own software, for all you guys that have it do you like it and would it be a good idea?

I bought the software soley for the TPS reset function to keep my bike from the Evil Clutches of the Dealership. Worth every penny.
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