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Blazinc5
Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 06:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey there, I origionaly posted this message in the Knowlege Vault concerning the nut on the crank shaft holding the front primary sprocket. I read in here bout how it can back off and the service spec. was updated to a much higher torque setting. But was questioned if I could figure out if it backed off without taking the whole pimary cover off and look through the inspection window... Any how here is the origional message......

Hey all,
Welp, I was just reading the thread here and I have noticed on my bike a loud hammering sound. (even over the race kit exh.) I been waiting on my service book to get here before taking it apart and I made a small adj. to the primary. It seemed a lil loose but no change in sound after the adj..

When the nut in question goes loose, (feeling through the inspection window with finger) would the slop be in a rotational direction or side to side. I am getting what seems to be rotational only. And there is a definate clunk at the end of it's travel. Very little movement but a clunk for sure.

bike built in Oct. 04
XB12R
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The best thing you could do IMHO, would be to take the primary cover off, take the offending nut off, clean it really well, and re-install with new torque settings.
You do NOT want this to go wrong while riding.
It can cause catastrophic engine damage if it comes loose.
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Typeone
Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

this happened to my '05 12 too. are you still under warranty? if you're still covered i'd just bring it in and let the dealer monkey that deep. they will install with loctite and re-torque to the new spec which is much higher. my nasty knock hasn't returned but i'm only just starting out the season, shouldnt be an issue though.

man is that sounds awful, hope i never hear it again.
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Sgthigg
Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had 2 VERY WELL known Harley/Buell dealerships look for this tech bulletin #.

NONE OF WICH COULD FIND IT..... They even looked in there system looking up the # posted on here no luck. I dont think anyone knows for 100% SURE that it definetly
Needs to be done. I had mine done, but there is no actual tracable/tech bull number out there..
Cant hurt I guess
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did I miss where you had asked a question? If so sorry about that. The KV is the place for this kind of content for sure.

172689

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/148030.html?1144020012#POST6 25691
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Dago
Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Read this <http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/155659.html>, and then trailer it to a dealership asap.

I personally think that this torque spec change should be announced to every new BadWeb member upon sign-up.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree; it should be made very clear and very publicly too. Maybe a banner. Good suggestion Dago!

I'm on it!
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How's this?

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Mr_cuell
Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey speaking of all this - I don't trust my dealer much and am pretty determined to do things myself. I spose I just have to drop the $110 for a 250lb torque wrench and make my own little jam piece. That'll be my 4th torque wrench - in lbs, 10-75 ft, 20-150 ft, and then one up to 250. I wonder if I should just rent one from Advance Auto parts or something. Any other bolts we may need to touch that are above 140 or so?
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Sgthigg
Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Awesome, Dago thanks.
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efinetly print it out and have it in hand.

It needs to really updated also in the actual data bases the Dealerships use. So when a poor soul walks in and says here is the tech number "TT211" for the bulletin. The dealerships got a clue. Man I wish I had that printed out 3 weekends ago. It would of atleast saved me 20 bucks on the gasket...lol
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Dago
Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for doing this, Blake!



I'm always sure to tell every XB rider at the track as well. It's just a shame to have a perfectly good engine ruined over something so easily remedied.

(Check your email)
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Stretchman
Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Harleys have the same issue, I think. It's called the compensator sprocket, IIRC

Stretch
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Duffman
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 02:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It needs to really updated also in the actual data bases the Dealerships use. So when a poor soul walks in and says here is the tech number "TT211" for the bulletin. The dealerships got a clue.

Thanks BadWeb for getting the word out to Buell owners on this service bulletin.

I took a copy of this "Tech Tip" with me when I had my 03 XB9R serviced today. The Service Manager/Co-Owner of the dealership could find no record of this bulletin but he stated that they were indeed using the 240-260 torque spec.

The [152lb.] service tech told me that it apparently had not been done on my bike (which I have to blame on a different dealer that had serviced my bike since the bulletin was released). The dealer today did not place a job charge for completing the service to spec.
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