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Court
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 05:56 am: |
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>>>>Mobil designs its oil on everyday driving Yes, everyday driving as done in the Porshce 911 and Corvette, two cars that arrive with Mobil 1 in the crankcase. I've run in my F-250HD since day one....no complaints. |
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Hootowl
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 09:06 am: |
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Funny, my X1 arrived at work today with Mobil 1 in the crankcase. Coincidence? I think not. |
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Cro13
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 09:45 am: |
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Thank you everyone, For all of the oil information. XB9, It's a short ride and I gear up for it so it's actually kind of nice, unless it's today and snowing then it's feet down and hold your breath the whole way. Chainsaw, the fan has not come on even once since the temp did a nosedive. For now I'm going to change to the 10w40 and try blocking the oil cooler. Thanks again for the info. CRO13 Carter smith 03 XB9R |
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Archer
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 10:17 am: |
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PLEASE READ!IMPORTANTE!!!!!!! I AM GETTING TOGETHER A LIST OF 9R OWNERS THAT HAVE HAD REAR WHEEL BEARING FAILURES. I could have been killed this weekend when my rear wheel bearing decided it was going to explode and throw every roller but one. The dealer I work for called Buell and they said they knew nothing about it. I have seen at least four guys on here with the same problem. They are replacing the rear wheel belt and axle on mine and we are mailing the bad parts back to Buell. If you would like to help in reporting failures please e-mail me with your VIN number and who your servicing dealership is. If we get enough of these we can probably initiate a recall. Thanks for you help Ross Republic H-D/ Buell (281)295-1000 ext.109 Ride Hard! |
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Sarodude
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 10:33 am: |
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Is it the belt side bearing that seems to toast quickly? Maybe the bearings don't like the tension? -Saro |
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Kcfirebolt
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 02:33 pm: |
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Archer, How many miles do you have on the bike? I know Shazam is replacing his bearings this week (himself), and I think he said they were in poor shape as well. I think he has 12k miles. I am coming up on 7k miles. Should I have the dealer check the bearings at the 7500 mile service? |
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Mikej
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 02:46 pm: |
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I sure hope the problem is small and doesn't lead to another recall for if it does pundits will call and say "told ya so" to us all. Time will tell. I've come to learn that panic solves nothing, and in fact obscures any resolutions. But then there's always the better safe than sorry thing to consider. |
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Shazam
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 02:57 pm: |
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charles, I would have them checked regardless, It's not an eveyday type maintenance item and it sure isn't as evident with the wheels on....in fact if XB9 hadn't mentioned it weeks and weeks ago I probably would have overlooked mine. I think as more people start getting some miles on these bikes more Items will pop up that will need extra attention. I personally view this as a wear item....(though 10k miles is a little disconcerting)....and am happy to replace them, as it is a small pittance to pay for the extrordinary amount of enjoyment this bike has brought me. For those of you just tuning in....I still stand firmly behind my belief that this is an incredibly reliable and quality built product, and I am torture testing mine on a daily basis! keep it on two wheels if you can....I prefer one. on another note....personal thanks to the folks at Latus HD for a beautiful product with exemplary fit (XB9 exhaust). |
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Hootowl
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 03:24 pm: |
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A 10K inspection/replacement for wheel bearings is nothing. That's what the swingarm calls for too. The bearings should be inspected every time you take the wheel off. Doesn't take much to pop the dust cap off and slather some more grease in there if you have to. I wonder if Buell is using the same manufacturer for the XB bearings as they are for the Blast!? I had to replace my front after 30K. I knocked the seal loose while washing and didn't notice until I had grease running down the wheel. The rear are going on 38K. Jeff |
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Archer
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 04:19 pm: |
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To me this is a big problem considering that it almost threw me to the asphalt. I have 8900 miles on mine! But I am right there with Shazam on the torture testing thing. I do admittedly beat the piss out of the thing on a daily basis. I just want to gather as much info as I can to help BMC sort this thing out. I love this bike and I don't want people talking trash about it. I need VIN 's and if available servicing dealerships. If you did them yourself I need the approximate mileage at which you replaced them. Thanks for the Help. Ross Republic H-D/Buell 281-295-1000 ext. 109 Ride Hard! P.S. Blake...when are we going to have a signature feature? Dave and i could really use it. |
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Xb9
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 06:24 pm: |
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Shazam, Did you put the Latus muffler on alone or with the race ECM? Your impressions on the power, sound? Admin: maybe move this to the XB9R aftermarket exhaust thread? |
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Shazam
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 06:26 pm: |
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hopscotching now. find it there |
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Anonymous
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 09:09 pm: |
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Here's an interesting anecdote to add to the oil discussion... Whenever I fly American out of Greg County (local Kilgore airport) I invariably notice the nacelle on the Saab 340 turbo prop look through my owners manual and the list of lubricants. It includes specific listings of applicable Exxon, Mobil (now Exxon/Mobil), Castrol, and Shell lubricants. Harley-Davidson lubricants. There is absolutely no mention of Amsoil, Red Line, Royal Purple, or Mobil 1. Smile big guy! R |
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Csg_Inc
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 09:18 pm: |
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Ok You could also add this the the oil thread. Screamin' Eagle SAE 20W50 Synthetic part number 99824-03 for $8.25 per quart in store only. Bet you thought Harley would never go for Synthetic Oil. DAVE |
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Xb9
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 09:35 pm: |
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HD Synthetic???? I'm going to have a heart attack! Is this for real?? |
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Aaron
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 09:42 pm: |
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Don't they know it causes flat spots on roller bearings? |
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Xb9
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 09:51 pm: |
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What will all the nay-sayers at the Stealerships say now???? |
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José_Quiñones
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 09:54 pm: |
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![](http://a1276.g.akamai.net/7/1276/734/infinite/www.harley-davidson.com/media/images/productphotos/PNA/99824_03_L_16a1d.jpg) |
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Blake
| Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 12:12 am: |
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R, Hardeeharhar. Are you suggesting we compare the lubricant specifications in our Buell owners manuals to the multibrand listing of lubricants specified for a commercial aircraft's turbine engine? I think you just made a very good point. One that I often raise myself. Why won't HD/Buell offer recommendations for other brands of lubricant? And what the heck is the equivalent to "Sport Trans" anyway? Kudos to HD for finally seeing the light wrt synthetic based oil. Quote:Screamin' Eagle® Synthetic Lubricant works in all three cavities of your motorcycle: the engine, transmission and the primary chaincase and is developed with a proprietary three synthetic basestock formula. This is the first multi-purpose synthetic motorcycle lubricant specifically tested and certified by Harley-Davidson. Formulated to meet the cleanliness requirements of engines providing long term protection with superior high-temperature stability for high output engines. Formulated to maintain the coefficient of friction for proper clutch operation and provide adequate lubrication to the primary chain drive. Formulated to provide lubricity for the anti-wear requirements of transmission gears. Formulated for improved seal protection. Approved by Harley-Davidson for use in all stages of engine life. Lubricant is not detrimental to break-in stage of engines.
There are a few BadWeBrs in the KV's Lubrication page that will be interested in this. Way to go HD/Buell!!! |
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Mikej
| Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 08:27 am: |
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Did I just read that right? It can be used in the oil bag and the primary/trans? ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/eyebrow.gif) |
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Sarodude
| Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 10:18 am: |
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Aaron- Those flat spots aren't a problem if you just whack 'em with a claw hammer a couple of times. -Saro |
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Xb9
| Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 01:33 pm: |
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Royal Purple made the same recommendation to me for a 'bolt: Same RP synthetic oil for Primary/Trans and the engine: 15W40 Remember, were talkin synthetics here, I wouldn't do this with non-synthetic oil. It's been rumored several times that sport-trans is just a semi-synthetic anyway. |
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Spiderman
| Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 01:39 pm: |
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It isn't a rumor SPort trans is semi synthetic |
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Mikej
| Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 01:47 pm: |
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From the pop-up window
Quote:Some Facts You Should Know About Genuine Semi-Synthetic Transmission Fluids and Sport-Transmission Fluid: Unique products developed specifically for Harley-Davidson® transmissions to provide superior lubrication. Consider these unique performance features: • Maintains Viscosity (doesn't thin out). • Conventional gear lubes or motor oils can actually be sheared by the high-speed action of the drive gears. The result is a loss of viscosity or thinning out in service and high wear to the gear teeth. • These products are designed to withstand this shearing action and maintain viscosity between services. • Superior lubrication over wide temperature ranges. These fluids are not affected by changes in temperature as much as conventional lubes or oils. • Fights corrosion and wear. H-D's Semi-synthetic Transmission Lube and Sport-Trans Fluid contain special additives to protect against rust and corrosion. They also contain potent high film-strength anti-wear additives to handle heavy loads placed upon the drive gears.
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Xb9
| Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 02:48 pm: |
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When I said it was a rumor I was referring to the fact that HD had never really officially advertised it as being a semi-synthetic. They would not say specifically what it was in ads or on the container. Mikej, your quote is the first I have seen where HD specifically called it a semi-synthetic. I think this is new advertising, but I could be wrong. I have not looked recently. |
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Mikej
| Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 02:53 pm: |
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I believe it is also labeled as a synthetic blend on the bottles. I can maybe go out to my car at break time and check, got a bottle out there. But due to the Harleyites vehement apparent anti-synthetic statements to various peoples over the years it is very reasonable that the synthetic content in the SportTrans fluid was greatly downplayed. Be interesting to see how they now counter all the "told ya so's" their going to be getting. They'll probably just blank stare back and say they never said that. |
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Rick_A
| Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 03:02 pm: |
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Wow...learn something new everyday. It'd be nice if all the oil manufacturers offered real technical information on all their products, instead of the usual marketing spiel. Some just expect people to blindly trust in their magical mystery lube. It'd be nice to at least have a general idea WTF is in there, why, and the compatible application(s). |
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Aaron
| Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 03:52 pm: |
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"your quote is the first I have seen where HD specifically called it a semi-synthetic" Where in that verbage does it say Sport-trans is semi-synthetic? "Semi-Synthetic Transmission Lube" is the name of one of their products. I think they're referring to "Semi-Synthetic Transmission Lube" and "Sport-Trans Fluid" as the names of two different products, not using "Semi-Synthetic" as an adjective to both. |
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Mikej
| Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 03:57 pm: |
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So, is it dyno, synthetic, or a blend? Or is it a petroleum dino lube with synthetic additives providing them with free-reign to lable it Semi-Synthetic? |
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Aaron
| Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 04:08 pm: |
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On the left is "Semi-Synthetic Transmission Lubricant" On the right is "Special Formula Sport-Trans Fluid" |