| Author | Message | ||
     Bigj |
Mr. 71, You said "It would be very difficult to make an aircooled engine rev to 8500 rpm." I gave you an example of one. And no, I don't need you to explain the differences. | ||
| M1combat |
Very difficult to make an air-cooled rev to 8500??? Nope. The Buells do it quite nicely once built for it... It's not difficult or TOO entirely expensive. Granted... That would be the ever-rev limit as I recall. They generally run them out to 8200? Please correct me if I'm wrong. I've got a friend with a decently built 76 Sporty that doesn't float valves until about 8000 or so... | ||
| 71sportster |
Yeah, there are as many Buells on the street turning 8500 RPM's as there are 600's making 75 Ft. Lbs. of torque. Actually, I'm quite sure there are lots of 600's making that. I'm not trying to be a ball breaker here, just playing devil's advocate. | ||
| 71sportster |
Having owned & ridden several bikes, you just can't convince me that the same rider, given he's experienced, not a squid, afraid of a powerful bike, couldn't get from point A to point B, whether on the street, or on the race track, quicker on a 600. I own an XB12 and I know I was faster on my 600. | ||
| Blake |
BigJ, He's a troll. Has bragged about being banned 26 times from a Triumph forum. People are funny. | ||
| Bigj |
SPeaking of Triumphs, that test had the 675 in it. Sounds like a sweet bike. | ||
| Spatten1 |
"SPeaking of Triumphs, that test had the 675 in it. Sounds like a sweet bike." Man, I'm drooling over that bike. They say it does everything well, and character too. Nothing but rave reviews so far. | ||
| M2nc |
SPeaking of Triumphs, that test had the 675 in it. Sounds like a sweet bike. A very interesting bike. Definitely on the test ride list. | ||
| M1combat |
"I own an XB12 and I know I was faster on my 600." I'm sorry, but that only points out one thing to me... You're afraid of lean angle but not power  . No problem. Power is mostly useless on my favorite roads. Sorry Blake... | ||
| 71sportster |
Que Sera! | ||
| Vonsliek |
er .. fwiw .. i had a ducat 999 & a gsx-r750 both coming after me to enquire aBT THE racekitted xb12r (all '05 models) i kept them at bay w/ on a short course track (more turns) .. they were impressed w/ the drive i got out of the corners. having said this - i wld like to try an i-4 600 on the track ... specifically the 06 r6 & the 03-06 zx6r/zx-6rr ... i never got the xb out of 3rd & even THAT was a brief, hard time .. thrashing 1st & 2nd was the schiznit. | ||
| 71sportster |
And THAT is where a short wheelbase, high torque bike excels. Most of these guys on here have probably never ridden anything other than their Buell, from the sound of it. One guy was even swearing his Buell could blow off any liter bike. And, like someone said, if that is the case, why do the Buells even have a hard time qualifying against 600's on the track? | ||
| Spike |
Do we really have to go through this again? Can't we discuss 600s without some troll making it personal and turning it into a flame-fest? | ||
| Blake |
"Most of these guys on here have probably never ridden anything other than their Buell, from the sound of it." Wrong. Try again. | ||
| Diablobrian |
Wasn't the statement: on his local twisties HE could blow off liter bikes with his Buell? Most of us are older than the average sport rider and have owned a lot of different brands, styles, and displacements of bikes. I've been riding for 26 years, and street riding for 20. The riders here, in general, have come from more diverse backgrounds (what, where, and how they ride) than in any other group I've been a part of, and in the last 18 years. I've been a member of a lot of different formal, and informal motorcycle clubs, BBS's, and owners groups in that time. Don't be so quick to judge where we come from and what we have, and haven't done. | ||
| 71sportster |
Yes, I believe that WAS the statement, but it was posted in reference to my ’04 Aprilia RSVR Factory. In which case, within the first mile, I guarantee you he wouldn’t even be able to see me! Far better handling than the top heavy Buell, and about 55 RWHP more. Oh, I forgot, after 40 Yrs of racing & ridding & being a 1979 National record holder, I’m “more afraid of lean angle, than power”, so I’m sure he’d blow me off with his Harley powered wonder! | ||
| M2nc |
71sportster/Badbuell82 you either need to figure out who is the 79 drag racing champion or you change your handle often which explains a few things. If you were referring to me then lets straighten a few things out. One, I never said I could out run a liter bike on my Buell, what I said was that I did out run a liter bike on my Buell, as in past tense, already happened. It was not a local road for me, it is actually 450 miles from home and was the first time I was up at T.W.O but not the first time I was on the road, I made at least two other passes. Look in the tale section archive if you want to see pictures. C-3 Adventure 04/2005 T.W.O. Suches, GA. Also, I never said I could out run your Aprilia, all I said was that when both bikes are at 5000rpm, the Buell makes twice the Horsepower. I did not mean to make you so defensive. I believe I commented how much I like the Aprilia and was not putting the bike down. Last thing, I rode with all kinds of sport bikes here at home and when I was at Suches last year and this year. To date, I have never been out run by a Repli-racer on the street. Most of the guys I ride with know I can push a bike through a curve, be it one of my Buells or my Honda or some friends' bikes. You know it is quite funny hanging off a Harley with forward controls but you can do it. The best handling bike I have ridden is a Firebolt. I can not say I have ridden all motorcycles so there may be a better bike out there but so far I love my Buells. But do not get me wrong, I am not blind by Buells. I read the review of the Daytona 675 and I have to say they may have made as close to a repli-racer I would ever want. That bike was picked as the top bike in a 600 comparison because it was a better street bike. It had more low end grunt. Just before I realized that the Uly would work for me, I was looking at other makes. I wanted a sport tourer and the ST1300 and Yamaha FJR1300 were on the top of my list. I fell in love with the Uly and have never regretted it. (Message edited by M2nc on June 11, 2006) | ||
| M1combat |
Yeah... That 675 would be sweet... I think I may have to pick one up  . There's another member (in fine standing ) on this boards that sets quicker laps with his 12R than he can with his Mille. I don't know what track... As far as "blowing off" a 1000... I wouldn't call it "blowing off" by any means, but a Buell can make passes in the right conditions (they aren't typically straight, or if they are they are VERY short). Keeping ahead is very possible too, as long as the road doesn't open up... That said... On the street it's just as much about the rider as on the track, but it's more about who wants to push it farther as opposed to who can push it the farthest. Works for me. | ||
| Wambo |
I think it's time this thread dies. We've gotten into pissing matches which do nothing for anyone. I personally believe (if you can do it) in the multi-bike theory. If you want a different bike for different reasons, do it. If you want an all-in-one bike, ride as much as you can and make your "best pick" and go from there. I don't believe there is one bike that is so above everything else. If there was, we would all be riding it. Such is not reality, because we all want something different out of what we ride. To impose that on another biker with different expectations of what he/she thinks is best is ludicrous. Don't burn bridges with other bikers as you may be riding alone! End of sermon. | ||
| M1combat |
Someone lit a bridge on fire? Damnit... I missed it. | ||
| 71sportster |
M2nc, I don't even remember if it was you? If I can recall, I really think it was someone else, but no need to be so defensive. I ride my Buell on the street everyday and love it, I just don't have any delusions about it being a superbike. I firmly agree with Wambo also! | ||
| Eexb |
"in reference to my ’04 Aprilia RSVR Factory." I'm wondering how many usernames you've used so far, to "inform" us all about this bike ??? Isn't anyone else sick and f-ing tired of hearing this bufoon's BS ??? | ||
| 71sportster |
FYI there have been about 8 names. And, you want to talk about "BS & bufoons"? This is coming from a guy who describes Buells as "high tech"! This site is even more pathetic than the "bad ass Harley biker” forums, when it comes to lack of tolerance and BS. A bunch of children with almost zero knowledge & riding skills. Now your question will be why I keep coming back? And, that is for people like Al Lighten and the other select few here who are truly knowledgeable, selfless human beings, and don’t engage in childish bullshit like this. As far as my Aprilia Factory, it is only one of many bikes I own & ride and I would strongly urge anyone who’s into V-Twins to at least ride one if you think a Buell is something special. So, please, If YOU are personally “sick & fugging tired of this bull shit”, at least try and be a man and spell it out. We’re all over 18 on this forum and it’s a simple case of mind over matter. I don’t mind, and you don’t matter! OK, boot me again now, so I can come back tonight as someone else. Try an IP ban too, because I have access to dozens of PC’s. (Message edited by 71sportster on June 11, 2006) | ||
| Don668 |
So, my first response to a post. More as an observation I recently had. Swapped bikes with a friend of mine (GSX-R1000 with my 9BSX) for a ride, all I could say is his bike was NUTS!! 152hp. dyno'd. I could not believe the thrust this thing had. He said his track (not street legal)600 was faster. On the other side, he said my bike railed corners like he would never believe. (loved the torque too). He was also faster on my bike than me on his... way better rider though. (It was interesting to see what a 9 was capable of with a more skilled rider.) Overall i like all bikes regardless, a skilled rider can do wonders on a piece o'crap... works the other way too. | ||
| Spike |
You can't be serious. You made that same "out of sight in the 1st mile" statement about four usernames ago and I shot it down then. You then backpedaled and said you meant to say you'd be one mile ahead after a 10 mile stretch, which I also shot down. You've since been banned numerous times and keep coming back with the same dumb generalizations and claim everyone else has the problem. YOU pick fights and start flame-fests and claim everyone else is being childish when they call you out on it. | ||
| Curtyd |
You know, I was kind of a "legend in my own mind" myself back in 1979. We all have "war stories". I just don't relive them every day. I like my present reality much more than "massaging" the past. The old saw is correct, "the OLDER I get the BETTER I was..." | ||
| Vonsliek |
after trolling this thread .. in reference to last comment .. in agreeance .. can anyone say .... CARL FOGERTY??!! | ||
| Lions |
I Kinda like 71Sportster...ya see...he ain't far from the truth  Having owned and ridden an XB12S and now the proud owner of a ZX10R and a couple of 600's...I can honestly say that it's got to come down to the individual rider cause I'm just as good in the twisites on my 10r as I ever was on the XB and this thing flies like the devil on the straights! Love the Buell for what it is but let's stop with the "my bike corners better than yours" b.s. and just admit that you personally love it for the character and the grunts and growls and the enjoyment it gives you on the streets...not because it kicks a$$ on all levels over any other bike! Who gives a rats butt what the other guy is riding or how much better yours is than his? Get out there and enjoy the ride and the friendships that evolve from them no matter what the other guy is riding! | ||
| Nd4spd |
Well said Lions. I love my Firebolt XB9R. I love the sound. I love how I don't have to maintain a chain. How I don't have to flush coolant for every trackday I do. I love the low rpm grunt. I love how unique it is and how cool it looks. But I have no delusions about it being any faster on the track than any 600. The only 600s and litres that I am faster than on the track are ones that can't ride very well. Put some one with my level of skill (which is slow and not very good) on a 600 and he will walk away from me on the track. Every time I ride my 'bolt I am grinning inside my helmet. Isn't that what your bike is supposed to be for? (Message edited by nd4spd on June 11, 2006) | ||
| Ducxl |
I have twins in 180,90,and 45 degree configurations.I've watched this for awhile. What facinates me is the way my long stroke 1200 makes power compared to my short stroke 996.A 600 "R6" would be absolutely a super machine combining lightweight and HP.You only need to not mind running along between 7-10000 RPM(or much higher) typically.And I-4s love to run up high w/o fear.Makes me feel like my Buells are the hipo diesel like sportbikes of the world |
