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Suzie
Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i have a 1995 S2 and i want to lower it for my wife.
any info will help

thank you
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Leftcoastal
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 01:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I attempted to do that to MY wife's 96 S2T after the recall shock was installed (not sure why, but the bike came back about an inch taller!) I used a special shock mounting bracket and dropped the front end by moving the tubes up a bit in the clamps. The bracket came from American Sport Bike and it may still be available. All that and the bike was still a bit tall, and it mostly sat in the garage. Wife had discovered the low height and comfort of the RoadKing (MY RoadKing!) and the S2 got sold.
Good Luck!
AL
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Court
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al:

I've been trying to mount a temperature gauge on my wife as well. But, it's not working so great, every time I start the drill, she runs.

Any suggestions?

P.S. - I tried the vice and that didn't work.
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i can't get my wife to try my S2...how does your wife like it? stock seat?

jt
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Road_thing
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Um, I'm confused...your name is Suzie and you have a wife?

rt
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Road_thing
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court: I would think that putting a temperature gauge on an Italian woman would be kinda like like putting a tach on an Electraglide--it's not gonna tell you anything you don't already know!

rt
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can it be that Johnny Cash is accessing the Badweb from the other side?

I've found that attempting to install anything on a woman to be ill-advised -- if they want it, they help you with the installation

seems fair
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Chasespeed
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court: I would think that putting a temperature gauge on an Italian woman would be kinda like like putting a tach on an Electraglide--it's not gonna tell you anything you don't already know!


Oh brother, if that aint the truth, I dont know what is....: )

Chase}
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Tres_wright
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This isn't my bike, but it is a beautiful lowering job. He said it was very tricky getting the rear suspension geometry worked out!



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S2pengy
Posted on Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alot depends on which front mount you have and how low you need to go.. Any more than about 2 inch and the rear belt runs into the battery support.
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Suzie
Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Suzie is the bike!!
my wife likes the bike buts its too high for her.

also how to you get the rear shock to be naked?
mine is covered and i always like the naked view...

thanks

(Message edited by suzie on May 23, 2006)
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89rs1200
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK... I have spent a lot of time with this for my wifes S3.
First I tried a 1" split collar on the Penske shock. This lowered the rear by about 2". Had it made at a local machine shop because the ready made ones were not thick enough.
Have just tried the short shock mount with the long Penske shock. This lowered the bike about 3". With the short mount and split collar the bike lowered by about 5". 5" and the tire hits the frame.

Concerning the belt. Yes it will rub! We installed the smaller international rear wheel sprocket to solve this. (55 tooth, Part# 37727-97Y)

NOTE: Because I do a lot of highway driving I have installed the 55 tooth sprocket on all my other S3s. Drops the RPM by about 500 @ 70MPH.

(Message edited by 89rs1200 on May 24, 2006)
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89rs1200
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Concerning the "naked" spring shock. You will need to buy one on Ebay or from www.americansportbike.com.
The Works ($599-$689 Blue spring) and the Penske ($895-$1250 blue spring) are still available. I have both and can recommend both. They are far superior to the stock shock.
The Penske 8700 series is the sweetest riding shock I have ever used. The Penske can also be lenghtened by about 1/2" @ the back end.

NOTE: Beware of the 97-98 stock rear shock with the welded on front bolt eye. These were recalled because of weld failures! Still find them selling on Ebay. OUCH. Can you imagine what it would be like to have the front of your shock fall on to the ground @ speed?!?!

White Brothers made a split collar years ago.

I know your S2 has a chain, but doesn't it use the same front shock mount as the S3?

A smaller rear sprocket will mean dragging the clutch a little more @ a stop light, but it is the simplest solution.
You could also try a plastic slider around the battery cross brace for the chain to hit on, ala RS/RSS1200.

NOTE: Stock S3 rear wheel sprocket is 61 tooth.

(Message edited by 89rs1200 on May 24, 2006)
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89rs1200
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Split Collar on a Penske shock.

Split Collar


(Message edited by 89rs1200 on May 24, 2006)
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Tres_wright
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

==A smaller rear sprocket will mean dragging the clutch a little more @ a stop light==

Exactly. It's almost like leaving from a stop in 2nd gear.
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Suzie
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

mine S2 is belt driven. mine manufacture date is feb 1995

also what is the model number of the penske shock? i peeped at there website but they dont have any details

thank you
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89rs1200
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Suzie. I have the 8760 Penske. This shock has high and low speed compression adjustments. The most expensive of the line. My wife has the 8660 that has high speed compression adjustment. The 8100 is cheaper with less adjustment, but will likely be just fine for most riders. Penske will revalve and respring to your specifications at a reasonable cost.
http://www.penskeshocks.com/motorcyc.htm
Penske Manual:
http://www.penskeshocks.com/8900%20Motorcycle%20Manual.pdf

NOTE: Correction to Penske manual. Longer shock = Lower, Shorter shock = higher. (Yes, the manual is geared to the Buell.)

More Prices and Information:
http://www.americansportbike.com/shop/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?usr=51F2846928&rnd=3759 600&rrc=N&affl=&cip=&act=&aff=&pg=prod&ref=PROD89&cat=s2frame&catstr=HOME: buell:s2:s2frame
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89rs1200
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There was an M2L that was lower by 1". They used two different shock mounts. I have not been able to get specifics concerning the 2000 & 2001 M2L.

Wife and I are settling on using the short (14.8") shock mount, (1997-1998 47725-94YA.) 94YA indicates that it was used since 1994. and the long (16.5") Penske shock, (Lengthend to the max. additional .470".) no split collar.
I did file 1/16" from the lower part of the battery cross brace for some additional belt clearance.
Then raised the front fork tubes till they nearly touched the bars.
Installed the S3T touring bars because they come back further and are easier for her to reach. ($53 from Buell. 55873-97Y N0002.E Modify the S2 to fit?)
She also uses the 97-98 seat. It is narrower and allows her legs a more direct route to the ground. (Not a seat recommended for male riders.)
55 tooth rear sprocket ($126 37727-97Y) and 27 tooth, (Stock size?) front/transmission sprocket ($63 40288-95) and 125 tooth belt to get the rear tire back to stock location ($146 DS-197007 non-Harley).

Most items can be found on Ebay sooner or later.

The bike at rest seat hight is now about 29" versus the stock 33", (Owners manual states 29.5" as the stock seat hight WITH rider.).


(Message edited by 89rs1200 on May 25, 2006)
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89rs1200
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tres_wright. Appears they used a split collar to lower the S2 in the photo.
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Buellman1
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have to dig through my parts, but I made lowering brackets for the S2s' years ago. 6061T6 billet AL. This is only for the rear. The front can be lowered a little by taking the preload spacers out. I can make them still. I would need to know what shock you are using.
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89rs1200
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

!!! Warning !!! !!! Disclaimer !!!

Lowering your tuber with the short shock mount and a long shock WILL allow the rear tire to hit the frame/body. It will feel like hitting the rear brake HARD. Therefore do @ your own risk!

Using a split collar will not lower quite as much, but the shock will still bottom out before the rear tire contacts the frame/body. A safer alternative.

Remove the lower belt guard so that it does not contact the belt teeth and grind them down.
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S2pengy
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you have access to a welder and/or machine shop there are other ways.. Which shock are you using???
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Bartimus
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just lowered a friends '99 X1 an inch by modifying the front rear shock mount.
I'm on the road right now, but I'll post a pic when I get home.
All I did is weld new sides on the existing shock mount, and then relocate the mounting hole 3/8" towards the rear. I found that the geometry of the rear shock is 3 to 1. meaning if you relocate the mounting hole 1" you will lower the bike 3" or close to it.
It took three tries before I got the bike to lower just one inch.
The mod was successful, and the rider/owner can now reach the ground comfortably, and there are no bottoming out issues, or handling problems.
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Bartimus
Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here are the pics of my modified shock mount, it should work for all the tubers using the first (long) recall shock. The mod would be the same for the shorter recall shock also, just use the bracket that goes with it.



This was the first mount I made and I relocated the mounting hole 1".
This proved to be too much as it lowered the bike about 3".



I ended up relocating the mounting hole 3/8" which dropped the bike about 3/4" and this was good for me.






I hope this helps everyone out, also, you may need to shorten the kickstand after this mod.
Feel free to ask any questions, I'll help with what I can... : )
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Bassboy3313
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey I just bought a 95 S2 and was wondering if anyone wants to sell me a lowering "kit" for it? Ik west tek makes one for the back, and was wondering what all went into lowering the front. Thanks!!
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Bartimus
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bassboy,
You just slide the forks up in the trees a little bit to equalize, or level the bike back to stock specs...
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