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Pyro
Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 01:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey new to the forum and I have an xb9s and I had a force pipe on the bike but it gave me no low end. So I'm looking for a good low end and all around kick ass muffler any thoughts? Thanks
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Drummer's the low end king. Check out www.kdfab.com
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wait till AFTER the exhaust shootout this weekend. then the REAL torque king will be known. this should be an KILLER shootout w/ all the different exhausts being dyno'd.
i'm waiting to see who is the king then i'll be buying that exhaust w/ the direct link. GOOD LUCK GUYS!!!
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Jandj_davis
Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is as good a place as any to ask this question:
When & where is the shootout going to be taking place? I know it will be at Silver Eagle Harley Davidson Buell in Waterloo, Iowa on the 6th & 7th of May, but what times are we looking at? I am planning on spending a few hours up there on Saturday, maybe take a few demo rides and get my sling bag. So, if Kevin or DaveS or anyone has any details on this event, PLEASE POST THEM!
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Diablobrian
Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think they'll be going all day on both days to get through all the pipes on both bikes.

Hopefully someone can confirm this for you.
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Alanshouse
Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where are the results going to be posted? On the badweb board I hope.
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99buellx1
Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm still working on start times for the two days, but we will run as late as needed to where we feel like we are at a good stopping place. (or we crash from exhaustion, witchever comes first)

Josh,
Your best bet is to come up during business hours. (I dont know how hard it will be to get in after hours) 9:00am to 4:40pm on Saturday. You can stick around as late as you like.

Anyone that is planning on coming and watching to attempting to give a hand or be the go-fer for us, if you need access, shoot me a PM and I will get you my contact info so we can be sure to get you into the building.

Results will be easy to find.
They will be here and easily accessible at the American Sport Bike website, and any other site that wants to show off.


Like I said, any questions just soot me or Al a PM, we'll do what we can.


Craig
(formerly) of Silver Eagle Buell
Waterloo, Iowa
-Home of the Buell Exhaust Shootout-
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Indyblast
Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you testing just slip ons or full systems too? Are you doing different combinations or header pipes and mufflers? What about some of the UK companies that produce header pipes and mufflers. Just curious.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

www.tailgunnerexhaust.com
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Diablobrian
Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glitch I don't think those will be in the comparison. I can't call it a shoot-out any
more, not without those being included : ) I doubt they'd make the cut anyway. You'd
lose all the ground clearance under your bike. You'd high center on a sheet of paper!
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Jimmy
Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That was cool Glitch.
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Jimmy
Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Diablobrian,
Killer Bike, Awesome story, you are an inspiration to us all. I just hope I can get back up and get on if it ever happens to me. I loved all the Ideas of improvements especially the Stand alone Dealers. I keep dreaming of opening my own Stand alone. Also, you need to quit talking about those heads and have a GOOD friend draw them up for you and share the Patent with you as an after market item. If Eric wont give it ALL to us we can at least provide it in the AFTER Market. I would love to know if anyone knows the REAL limiting factor on the REVS. Is it the CRANK, Heads, or what? Does the V-rod have the Potato-Potato Crank or opposed like the Japs?
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Diablobrian
Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

/sorry, thread hijack

Thanks for the kind words Jimmy.
Like everyone I just do the best I can with what I have.

I cannot take credit for either the idea of stand alone dealerships. Trev Deeley has
one up in Canada. He opened it before I took the plunge and bought Buell.

3 valve heads have been around for a long time. I do not know who holds the patent,
but it exists.

limiting factor on strokers is side loads on pistons/rods.
The limiting factor on oversquare motors
is piston speed vs piston & rod mass.
The limit on compression is detonation caused by the heat of air cooled motors.
The intake angle and included valve angle forced by the motor architecture is also a
limiting factor.
The pushrods and rockers are not the limiting factor at this point.

That's all top end stuff so far. The bottom end is not without it's weaknesses either.
100 hp is about the practical limit of a production line single crank-pin v-twin. reliability
starts to fall off shortly after this figure. Buell knows they need to build reliable motors
not trouble waiting to happen. hopefully we'll see the RR bottom end in production soon.

Of course this is all just my opinion and I could be wrong. If I am, I'm not afraid to admit it.

/end thread hijack
on topic content

I wonder how fast your bike needs to be revving to make those things spin? Also
I wonder if there is any baffling inside them, other than the turbine blades that is.
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Leebridger
Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi

sorry to but in.

but does anyone know the part number for the front muffler clamp. just got back and found is hanging of me XB9S (2003).

thanks

Lee
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Jimmy
Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

, Thank's for the info, Wow I did not realize I was jumping so off subject (Hijacking) but I really just wanted to jabber with you about those things. Please feel free to call sometime
205-585-3360
or send me you # and I will call you
jpainter@mtcinc.com
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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

jimmy it's no problem, however I'd be careful posting my email and phone number on a bb.
There are 'bots that collect email addresses and people sell the address lists to advertisers.
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No_rice
Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

getting closer!
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Jimmy
Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WOO Hoooo

I cant wait for the results. I am gonna get a pipe from Otie regardless but I do wanna know the results of some really good tests. I only wish I could attend.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kevin is at Craig's house, I'm at the hotel in Waterloo, Blake is on the road somewhere between Texas and Iowa, Terry got hung in Chicago due to no standby slots on the puddlejumper flights to Cedar rapids, so he rented a car and is now somewhere between Chitown and Waterloo due here between 2 and 3 AM. We start at 9AM tomorrow.

Al
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Outstanding. Thanks for the update Al!

We're anxiously awaiting the outcome.
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No_rice
Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i'll be there sometime. figure saturday but not sure when.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Woohoo! By my watch the shootout is underway!
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Skypephillis
Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the shootout is fantastic, cannot wait to see the results of the major exhaust systems pitted together in the one test environment.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

7 of 16 combo's are in the bag. It has been a challenge, but despite much adversity, we are making good progress.

More later....
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Kdan
Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 02:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You started at 09:00AM and you're posting you're almost halfway at 01:00am. I would say that challenge isn't a strong enough word. We're all counting on you.


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Buellxb1203r
Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are the result out yet,,,,

Al, I want carbon please.........

Joshua
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Kevinfromwebb
Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And don't call me surely !!! : )
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Al_lighton
Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

8:15 PM our time, 3 more to go (jardine on XB12, Micron on both 9 and 12).

More later...
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Sik_s
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmn, is this going to be the official thread of the exhaust shoot-out? I'm not going to sleep until I see the results posted!
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99buellx1
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 12:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We're still going....Micron on the 12 is the only one left.

....Need sleep....
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