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Barthautala
Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This probably isnt even possible is it? I just really like those wheels. Is there somewhere I can get similiar style wheel?

I didnt really think the above through very well. the whole brake set up is different. Im an idiot.

(Message edited by barthautala on April 27, 2006)
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Raceautobody
Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

someone has done it on a M2. Do a search there is pixs of the bike here. It is a real cool looking bike. I think they used the complete front off an XB. Anything can be doon.

Al
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Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some pics from March Badness III:

M2XS


M2XS 2

Sanchez of the 3%'ers (out of Atlanta) owns the bike.

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Firemanjim
Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brankin,wasn't that owned by a Buell employee before,seems I remember him from Court's wedding????
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Barthautala
Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Holy crap..........thats what I want!!! Thats sweet!! Now I just need some stuff to do it.
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Seth
Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I remember from a previous thread that the front is easy buy the rear needs some mystery spacers.
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Xldevil
Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it an Ulysses XB12X front end?
Rear wheel is XB also.Does it fit?
Ralph

(Message edited by xldevil on April 28, 2006)
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Essthreetee
Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are the front ends of an XB really THAT much different than a tuber??? Or is it just the brake caliper mounting bracket??? I am sure there are more differences, but just looking at them, they look like the forks on my S3...

Just thinking out loud....
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1313
Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wasn't that owned by a Buell employee before

Right you are, Jim!

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Littlebuggles
Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 03:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks more like an XB-S model front end with the tubular bars and the lights. Don't the 12's and 9's run the same suspension?

Discussion has previously suggested that swapping out the whole front end is the easiest method.

Seems like the back required the mystery spacers mentioned by Seth.

If it helps I have a 04 xb swing arm I can measure and compare to my 00 m2 swingarm's inside measurement for ya.
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Seth
Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 03:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Showa vs. WP, just look at the caliper mounting point; same diameter though (I think) should be able to use the same triple trees.
Front end is easy enough, the real question which remains unanswered is just how the f**k do you mount the rear wheel?!
Wheel + rear caliper mount + ? = the right amount of metal smooshed between the swingarm.

…opposite spacer spec. anyone?
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Seth
Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 03:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...can you even use the stock tuber rear caliper and mount if you make the conversion?
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Halffast
Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The front end is more complicated than it looks.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 05:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/47623/164090.html?1133968857

Seems like there's a smoother way to post links but I don't know it. This is from the archives, SJH was putting xb wheels on an X1.

-Mike
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 06:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/47623/159874.html?1141064149

The continuation on the above thread. It doesn't appear that the issues regarding the rear spacer(s) saw a resolution on the board.

Prolly have to PM Eboos, SJH or Sanchez for more info. Seth, looks like you are still considering the mod as well (?)

I wonder how an S1/M2 would look with XB wheels and a single sided swingarm from Al? (Saving my nickels and dimes for the swingarm now). I'd like to keep the X1 forks I have since they'll be getting re-valved and re-sprung this year...

Anyone know the weight difference on the XB vs. tuber wheels?


-Mike
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Sjh
Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The overall conversion is pretty easy when you get all the parts needed.

As stated in the previous thread, I have since acquired all parts and machined spacers to complete my conversion, but am waiting on my wheels to return.

For the rear, two spacers need to be made, and the rear brake carrier needs to be machined. Stock caliper is used, XB rotor is used, and either XB or Modified stock pulley used.

For the front, it really depends on what you are looking for. you can switch just the legs if you already have inverted forks.

If you use the XBS triple trees you will have to cut off the top tab on the steering neck to clear the middle mouting tab on the trees as you steer.

Anoter option in the front that was discussed, but I have no experience, would be to change the lower legs.

After a long winter of gathering more parts, changing plans, and waiting on services; I plan to have this project completed in next few weeks. I will have pics as I assemble.
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Eboos
Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry, I have dropped my plans to do this mod due to cost. Right now my money is being spent on better riding gear, ergonomic upgrades, and track time. It is a shame though, I would really like to work this out just for the sake of doing something cool.

Sjh, I am glad to see that you stuck with this project.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SJH, one of the members of Brew City Brag wants to do the same conversion, to XB front end/brakes/wheels to his 2002 S3T. The front end seems simple. But aren't the fork legs outer diameter larger on an XB that the tubers?

Also, do you have an other info you could share about the size of the spacers and such for the rear?
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Sanchez
Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Chicken Nugget is back in action with some new powder coated wheels:



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Jimincalif
Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll stick with my PMs thanks. For the cost/effort involved you'll make the bike tons better by doing a serious rear shock (Works or equivelent) valved to your body weight, esp. if said weight is either on the large or small end of the spectrum.

Esp. if you already have an upside-down front (S1, S2, S3, X1, etc.).
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 04:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah but in addition to reduced unsprung and rotating weight it looks hot and you get the swanky ZTL brake set up.

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Steve_mackay
Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 06:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While PMs look nice(I've got a set on my S3T), I think I'd rather have the XB setup. Just think how a set of XB wheels, polished would look : )
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Sjh
Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was in the process of getting the wheels polished, but decided to cheat and get them chromed. After waiting about 2 mo. I recieved them today and was very impressed.


The last bump in the road for me is getting the Xb dash wired.

With a few events in the very near future, the pressure is on.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 07:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sjh, please make sure and post pics of it during, and after your build up. I'm very interested in doing something similar with my S3T.
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Rippin
Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ya, can you say N V Us!!!!! They are the shet! I can't wait. I'm going to do the same conversion on my Pink blast! If I ever get one!
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Bartimus
Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great job SJH!
Very impressive, glad to see you stuck it out, and are still proceeding with yet more mods. The bike looks SWEET !!!
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Sjh
Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Project update- Have everything except the XB speedo plug to convert dash.


Most recent hold up has been my last minute decision to go with a 90" motor. Plan is to be complete by Road America first weekend of June.

Pics will be posted along the way.
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chicken Nugget??

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Sjh
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well the conversion is complete. I was able to get the motor finished and installed just in time to go to Road America.


I went with the XB wheels, brakes, triples, dash, headlights.

If using XB triple trees, the steering stem needs to be threaded further down and cut the excess off, or make a spacer.

The other mod needed to use the XBS top tree was to cut the top tab off the frame on the steering neck.

I also was able to convert the wiring to use the XB dash and everthing functioned properly.

I will post pics later tonight. I do not know the best way to post and not use a large amount of server space.

I took as many pics as possible until I quit and focused on getting it done in time.
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