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Henrik
Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Aaron

You asked for pictures and dimensions of a reach adjustable brake lever; Here ya' go:

In the first picture the lever adjustment is dialed to "1" - although you can't see that since the dial is ground down - which is the "longest" reach. The tape measure measures the grip-to-lever distance approximately 2 1/2" from the brake lever pivot:


Brake lever "1"


In the second picture the reach is adjusted to setting "5":


Brake lever "5"


You can't exactly count on the measurements you see in the picture - paralax (sp?) error - but I found the total adjustment at 2 1/2" from the pivot to be approximately 1/4". Doesn't sound like much, but it makes a huge difference when you're trying to accurately dial braking and throttle on/off respectively.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you need more measurements and/or pictures.

Henrik
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Henrik
Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

P.S. I did a bunch of web searching, but didn't find *one* reference to HD style adjustable levers ....?

Henrik
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Aaomy
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

henrik, two questions???? if you press forward on the leave dose it move forward, it their a small spring keeping it against that adjuster. second how often do you adjust it. is this something that people adjust ever day, week , month?? is this something that could be adjusted to you personal preference and left? better the questions the better the results,,, thanks aaron,, ps already dug out some old trashed leavers to get measurements off of..
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Chasespeed
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, in my experience with adjustables...

There is a spring that keeps it against the adjuster...

You set it to where you are comfortable, then leave it be...of course unless someone screws with your settings...

Yes, you can push the lever forward, but it will spring back...(on the ones I have dealt with)...

Chase
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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron: Chase got it spot on.

The lever can move outward, but a spring keeps it in check and pushes it back against the adjuster. I pretty much set and forget the brake lever.

Provided the brake system is well bled with fresh fluid the engagement point and the "lock-up" point shouldn't change (by much at least). I can see needing to adjust a bit if going for leisurely street riding to aggressive, hanging off track riding. But generally, as long as nothing changes in the brake system, my brake lever stays where I set it.

That said, newer (expensive : )) race levers are adjustable on the fly to compensate for brake fading due to hard braking. Also, I know Al at American Sport Bike really likes his adjustable CRG levers because he can quickly dial from a "city" to a "back road" setting.

If you start doodling up something, may I suggest not making the levers quite as wide (top to bottom) as the stock HD levers. I find newer levers such as the ones on the XBs and on Jap bikes much better for fingertip control.

Henrik
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Aaomy
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

henrik, thinner leavers i think is just a straight up switch to sporty leavers vs big twin leavers.. maybe can post some tonight,, no promises,, blown brake lines on the cager... gotta go
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Firemanjim
Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 03:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll take a set---
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Aaomy
Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

henrik-- the quick thinner lever conversion for you...









these are my crashed set of s2t levers that came on the buell when i got it.. the others are stock 91 hugger leavers.. that would just be a quick way got get thinner levers..

ok on the adjustable ones?? adjustable brake and clutch.. full billet or stock conversions??

it would probably be cheeper to modify stock style levers,, by that i mean buy two and cute to make one.. but billet is much stronger.. and it is just a fun word to use..just trying to see what you guys want..
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Firemanjim
Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 02:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know about the rest of em,but I am partial to billet!!!
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Bluelightning
Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron,

I might be able to come up with a broken adjustable brake lever for an XB that you can use as a template to the adjustment setup. Then all you need to do a machine the inner section that mounts the lever an pushes the plunger. I'll check tonight to see if I still have it. Let me know if you want it. Maybe we can make a deal as I need a small piece made for my bike X1.

Karl
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The billet miester returns,
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Chasespeed
Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Billet is nice, but for those of us who are severely financially challenged....

I am content with my levers anyway...for my hands...perfect...\

Chase
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Aaomy
Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

bluelightning,, what are you looking for?
oldog,, man do i have the usual crazy life stories for you ... how have you been? any more fun excersions? any fun planed trips.. think im going for the weekend to americade this year.. we will see, oh, we will see!!
chasespeed-- its a little expensive but much stronger.. and one of a kind stuff has to encur all the design cost to usually .. luckily for me i am the designer and manufacture.. hence... billet=good
the other thing is that you have completely different set up on your x1 vs us s2 guys.. we have the 1" bars and the harley controls.. great for cruisers but not originally intended for sport..
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaomy:
Man drop me a note as your time permits
I wanna see how you do this one its gonna be interesting to see how you carve it out.


News from the home front good over all, trying to find a home, and in a new job. I was in Pa (mt pocono area)
early this week.

later ..
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Aaomy
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

henrik and fireman-- do you guys want reach adjustable clutch also???
need to know for design.. purpose..
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Firemanjim
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have to be balanced,right??
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Aaomy
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

fire man i expected that answer from you!!!!
henrik??? still alive??? starts the post and then runs away??? i now dub thee sir robin the chick hearted!!! lol havent seen ya post for a bit..
working on a million projects at once. they are all progressing slowly. but such is the way of life!!
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Smoke
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i'll pay for one of each, prefer the wider over the thinner personally.
tim
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Chasespeed
Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

chasespeed-- its a little expensive but much stronger.. and one of a kind stuff has to encur all the design cost to usually .. luckily for me i am the designer and manufacture.. hence... billet=good
the other thing is that you have completely different set up on your x1 vs us s2 guys..


First, dont get me wrong, i like billet, I know its good, I try to use it when I can on the bike...have a few pieces on there as well...

I can also atest to its strength...

But, I still cant afford it most of the time...

As far as X1 vs S2... I know, I was just throwing it out there, not all of us can afford stuff like that...thats all...

And Aaron, you do som BADASS work...

Besides, adjustable controls are available to the X1....

Chase}
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Henrik
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron; sorry to start trouble and then just run out. Stuff's been going on.

I'm with the Fireman on the balance thing. I'd love to have one of each.

Anything I can do to help the project along?

Henrik
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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here are a couple of shots of aftermarket adjustable levers:





Henrik
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