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Totway
Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Help, I blew my belt off on the way home today, I would think 3700 miles is a little low for belt life!!! I have extended warranty, is this considered a warranty issue? I don't even ride in the rain for crissakes, I sure would expect a belt on a stock engined M2 ridden only in fair weather to last a butt-load longer than 3700 miles!! What is the procedure for replacing the belt myself?
Tim
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Blaster420
Posted on Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Squeeking belt... I can relate to that, mine seems to come and go, I was thinking it was just something that I had neglected or such. I have some belt dressing and I was thinking of using that, but one of my Harley shadetree mech's said no way don't do that. He never said why not, so I am still stumped on how to get rid of it.
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Snowm2an
Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

\image 33.710 km
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Moderator
Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Finnally did it, broke my belt. Does any one know of part numbers or kits for chain drive conversion other than the one from ASB (calm down Blake) I would love to help out our sponsors BUT... three hundred dollars is a bit much.
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Jmartz
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sider:

Check bakerperformance.com
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Spiderman
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Then we go to the point of $300 again. A 560 DID chain and Two sprokets are not $300 does any one have part numbers or know of the sprokets to match the bolt patterns and spacers etc.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spidy,

I think ASB sells a chain conversion kit. :)

Yep, see it here.

Mention BadWeB, see if they'll give you a discount. :)
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You also need a spacer, right?
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Ralph
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can get the spacer from any Harley dealer. The spacer is a stock Sportster unit from when they used chain drive. I think you can find it in the '91 Sportster parts book. Sprocket Specialists has the rear (stock Sportster measurements on the bolts). Can't remember who's front I used, but they are easily available if you look. Unfortunatly Blake, this is one of those times when Tat was just to high for me. His conversion kit runs pretty high. I was able to put together everything I needed for less than half the money.

bighairyralph
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I talked to Tat of ASB. His kit requires no spacer. The ASB sprockets already have the right sized hole.
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ralp i did just that got a bunch of part nubers through renthal etc. I am gonna do it next time the belt breaks. I just bought another cause my shop doesn't have the sprokets and the Jap shop we own is stock full of morons. Tried giving me the number to the shop i work at. Lazy dumb squids.
"I talked to Tat of ASB. His kit requires no spacer. The ASB sprockets already have the right sized hole. "
And a $300 price tag, OUCH grant you it does come with "multiple sprokets" But at least sell a kit that has the same ratio as stock. 22/50
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Ralph
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spidey, you are going to need a way bigger front sprocket than a 22 to clear your aluminum swingarm. I would suggest a 25 tooth. Sticking with the belt is a much better choice.

Blake, the spacer costs in the area of $20 (I made mine anyway). The spacer is just that, the sprockets have the correct tooth pattern to engage the output shaft. I like Tat, I've traded Tat my money for his stuff and look forward to doing it again.

bighairyralph
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Jmartz
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spider:

I have a 25 teeth front, if you are interested. Still in the wrapper, never used. A while back I was looking to reduce some weight in that area but ended up going another route.
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Jmartz
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

paid $35, you can have it for $20, minus shipping, 20 some including it
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SOunds good J Ping me. I just put a new belt on but i love to stock pile parts.
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Pj1
Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

how long is the drive belt suppposed to last? I have a 2001 M2 and the belt snapped yesterday and I only have 6500 miles on the bike.
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Newfie_Buell
Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have 18000km with no problems YET, should I be worried. I kinda like to lift the front wheel.

I have a neighbor with a Electra Glide and there was about 120 000km on his before he changed it.

Bill
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Petel
Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Belt life:

According to a certain Jeremy Pick from Buell and published in the January 2001 edition of Superbike (UK).
"Up to 50,000 miles...20,000 odd if you`re an animal and up to 50,000 miles with a bit of care and maintenance."

Just quoting and going by the past posts on this thread I`d tend to think this is sales BS!

Petel. 02 M2 UK.
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Ccryder
Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 99' S3T accumlated 25,000 miles in 14 months with no drive belt issues. My current X-1 00' has 30,000 miles in 24 months and no drive belt issues. I'm no wheelie monster but I do love the drive out of the corners. YRMV

Neil S.
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Josh
Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 99 S3T has 42,000 on the belt with no issues, many 2-up and fully loaded, some drag racing, some track days.

People only post when they have problems, thus most posts are about problems.

Josh
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Bluzm2
Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Josh,
Come on! You really only ride 1 1/2 up.
She's too tiny to count as a full rider!

Brad
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Josh
Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

;)
She rode on RacerBoy's Beemer a few weeks ago and Bob was commenting on how she just disappears when she's on the back. It's like cheating.
Josh
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Thunderbolter97
Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tough technical Question,
Does anyone know the stock gearing on a 97 S-3?
I noticed in the brochure(1998), that the lightning and cyclone are geared lower than the S-3. Would like to get mine lower since I do a fair amount of around towning and this set up is a bit steep. Any help appreciated,
TB
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Ara
Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thunderbolter97: I also have a 97 S3. I'll check the manual for you tonight and get back to you, OK?
Russ
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Jmartz
Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

TBolt97:

I have a used 27 front pulley you can have for tests. $20 ppd
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Ara
Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thunderbolter97 - The factory manual provides the following information in answer to your question:
Transmission Sprocket - 29 teeth
Rear Wheel Sprocket - 61 teeth
Secondary Drive Belt - 128 teeth
Ratio - 2.10 to 1
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Thunderbolter97
Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Russ, just what I was looking for. I'm wondering what the lightning runs to get the 2.26
to 1 ratio. Jmartz, did going to the smaller sprocket (27 tooth), require a different belt or is there enough adjustment?? If I could get away
without changing the belt size I'm interested in your sprocket.
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Geofg
Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I've got a 'bolt with roughly 3700 miles on it. The belt has developed a split down the center (along the length, not the width, thank goodness), about 2 inches long.

It's getting dropped off at the dealer tomorrow, but I was wondering if any other firebolt riders have had this happen. I know the early pre-release demos had trouble with snapping belts, but I haven't heard about it being a problem with the actual release models.

-Geof
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Jmartz
Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

TB:

No need for a new belt. The rear wheel will have to be moved back but only very slightly. You'll love the 26. The peice is exquisite with maybe 1/5 the weight of the original stock 27.
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