| Author | Message | ||
     Trevorxb9s |
I used the sensor safe RTV to glue in the "studs" for the long air filter bolts. I waited 24 hours as recommended and the "studs" came loose on the first twist. I recovered them again last night and will wait long than 24 hours, but I was wondering if anyone else had this problem or had another method other than the one supplied with the kit to secure the air filter. | ||
| Isham |
Studs. Glue? What is this... | ||
| Olinxb12r |
That part was a pain! There has to be a better way to do it. | ||
| Trevorxb9s |
I apologize. I think my description of the parts might be a little off. The instuctions actually refer the the pieces as Bonded Sealing Washers and Well Nuts. The instructions call for the bonded sealing washers and well nuts to be installed and "sealed" with the sensor safe RTV. Does this help? | ||
| Keys |
Trevor, I thought the connection method they had worked out was pretty senseless too. But I mounted it to the "T" as they wrote it up. Waited 24 hours and it mounted up fine. The next thing I needed to do was open it back up and put a little bit of plastic tape on the long nuts on the part where the long spacers cover them because it was vibrating and I was getting a metal against metal sound. Anyway I had one seal on the well nut fail after about a month. During that month I had probably opened and removed the filter 6 times or so during that month working on various things. I had always used a socket by itself turned in my fingers to make sure when connecting the bolts back in that it wasn't too tight. I could get a good feel for the tension and not (as the instructions say) "overtighten." Whatever that means! The last time I installed it I used a full wrench and am pretty sure I overtightened it and I noticed the seal had failed the next time I checked. Even though I messed it up, I decided to do a new method. I drilled two holes (on each side of the filter) into the original lower airbox where the clips are that had secured the original upper inner airbox. You know, those little black taps that run around the perimiter of the plastic airbox base. And I ran a single line of snap tie across the top. And I just sealed the open holes up. | ||
| Isham |
I was going to buy that kit but after reading this I decided to swiss cheeze my 12r box. Didn't take too long after I drew up a grid. | ||
| Vaneo1 |
swiss cheese the AB? Is it safe to put holes in the AB cover? I think I know the answer but Id like someone to confirm it for me.  | ||
| Keys |
Isham, You'll love it. In fact you could cut away everything except the cap area for the filter and just leave some of the material going to the clip-on points to secure it. And it would look nearly identical to what I've got. It's just an idea. I know your instincts will get you exactly what you want whatever you decide. Go out and cruise it at 3200 to 3400rpm to let the ECM re-evaluate the AFV (for a few minutes) and enjoy! | ||
| Isham |
I have a PCIII. All i have to do is take it for a cruise and It will learn? | ||
| Al_lighton |
I've just modified the instructions to include a step to wash the well nuts, sealing washers,and the lower airbox, before bonding them. Thewell nuts and washers come with stuff on them that seems like talcum powder, and it appears that it keeps the RTV from sticking the first time if it isn't cleaned off. And of course, there is always oil on the airbox cover. Mine haven't come loose after multiple R&R cycles on the air filter, but I did clean them and the cover prior to bonding it.. As far as not tightening it too tight goes, it is a rubber well nut that swells more as you tighten it. Once it is snugged down, there isn't any reason to tighten it more, it just squishes the rubber more, a mere 12-15 inch lbs (i.e, about as tight as you can get it with a 12" extension on a socket by hand) is all that you need. And once the air filter cap is held in position by it, it isn't going anywhere, as in normal operation it is being pulled down harder by the vacuum. I just modified the instructions for that step too. Thanks for the inputs. Al | ||
| Keys |
I like the product even though I overtightened the bolt once. I like the clean lines of it, and since it is white, you can see it clearly through my vented outer airbox. So it adds much visual appeal. Some hacked up airboxes look a little unsightly, so Al's kit looks more finished overall. | ||
| Charlieboy6649 |
another option other than swiss cheezing is to cut out the 12 airbox top and hold it in place by sandwiching a piece of foam between the cutout piece and the airbox cover. That's what I'm going to try when my 12 box gets here. BTW, thanks RR_eater...  |
