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Sportriderwv
Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Getting ready to install my new D@D this weekend, i know how to get the old on off any one have any tips/tricks on putting the new one on? i noticed in the kit there was a extra bolt, where does this go? thanks any help would be great
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Should be pretty easy.
The extra bolt,I think it the one that is for the front mount?
The D+D uses it instead on a strap clamp in the front.
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Dtx
Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Try a search on this web site for D&D install. There was a pretty detailed thread on this subject that I used when I installed mine. It was pretty simple, just take your time though.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It comes with one rear clamp. I suggest using two.

Al
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Sportriderwv
Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 06:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where can i find a extra clamp localy?? Does like lowes/home depot carry one that big ( i know amerciansportbike has one but dont want to wait for it to get here) thanks
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Dana P.
Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 07:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You will be fine until Al gets one to you.I'm only running the one that came with it without problem but the extra would be a nice extra measure.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What Dana said....it's an insurance thing. As Wyckedflesh can tell you, an exhaust coming off a Buell can be much worse an event than one falling off a japanese sportbike. T-bolt clamps have broken. Having two there just strikes me as a good idea. Buell thinks so too, that's why they come with two.

Al
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not that I totally disagree with running 2 clamps on the D+D( I didn't double clamp Kandie's and am not worried in the least) but,to compare what happened to Wycked to a properly installed D+D that is made for an XB is not really fair either. It was not the back of the muffler that broke and hit the ground on Wycked's V+H,made to fit an XB muffler. This not a bash on Wycked. He bought a muffler for a tuber off Ebay,made it fit the XB and it didn't turn out too good.
But to compare the muffler he had break and where it broke and a D+D and how many straps you should have on it is BS.
The strap clamp that comes with a D+D is also sturdier than the 2 stock ones that come from the factory.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe, but I've seen several failed T-bolt clamps. I run two. I would run it with one if that's all I had, but I'd still be getting a second one for it if I was in that situation. My point was not to compare the D&D to Wycked's muffler, but rather to point out that the location of Buell mufflers makes failure a more significant event than on a side or underseat mounted muffler design. If they come off, you run over them. If they come off the wrong way, they launch the bike.
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well for it to come off the bike the strap clamp would need to break,the bolt at the front mount would need to break and the clamp where it hooks to the header would need to lose it's clamping on the header.
I am pretty sure you'd feel,hear or somehow know about it before the muffler just "fell" off the bike. I know I would.

Be extra careful if you want,I have no problem with that but I sell a lot of D+D pipes too and I don't double clamp them. If it was an ongoing issue with mufflers falling off all over the highway you'd think D+D would be aware of it and maybe include the second clamp in the kit?
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Dana P.
Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well then Dave did ya get that off your chest did ya?? I don't have the extra either on mine but I don't think its a bad idea either.Kinda like safety wiring everything on your scoot just for the extra measures.
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, and I feel much better!

Like I originally said, Not that I totally disagree--------
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Opto
Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell T-bolt clamps have broken, but just take a look at what the FM asks you to torque them up to...no wonder...

The problem with re-using a Torca clamp is that you may not get a perfect factory fit the second or subsequent time around, due to the splines on the spacer. It's not normally a problem when removing and refitting the same muffler, but can be a real pain if fitting a new different muffler.
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