| Author | Message | ||
     Blackbelt |
just went to the station here in Michigan, and regular unleaded is $2.79, premium is $2.99 | ||
| Dagwood |
Tahoe wrote: ".....hand it over to the Israelis" Hand what over... Palestine, OPEC, the largest arsenal of nuclear weapons outside the US? SURPRISE!!! They already have it. | ||
| Jugallo94 |
I filled up the truck this morning and about passed out. regular was 2.49 and premiom 2.69. I need to get my bike back on the road. | ||
| Scitz |
I've seen in some bike mags in the past a couple of US made diesel bikes. One looks kind of like the one you linked to and uses a VW style engine and gets 80hp. | ||
| Hooliganxb9s |
Lol, people laugh that I have a turbo diesel bug but it gets 45 mpg in town and usually 50-55mpg on the road. | ||
| Brucelee |
They shouldn't be laughing at $3 a gallon. They should be thumbing! | ||
| Trojan |
Price for diesel in the UK has just gone up again to UK£0.96 per LITRE. That works out at around US$6.70 per gallon. I filled up the motorhome last week and virtually had to take a mortgage! I know that most of it is made up of tax, but I didn't vote for this bloody government of ours so what can I do! (Message edited by trojan on August 16, 2005) | ||
| Trojan |
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| Phantom5oh |
All I know is that almost 50 MPG my Buell is pretty darn good as far as I'm concerned. My two buddies, one on an RC51 the other on a GSXR 750 only get in the lower 40's, my Brother's 919 and his friend's CBR 600RR get in the mid to upper 40's. We all go about the same distance, but it costs me the least to fill up, normally by a $1 or 2. Gas is getting crazy expensive though. | ||
| Jeremyh |
my current 2004 gsxr-600 will only pull about 38 mpg in town. not sure what it does on trips, im sure its not much better. it also only has about 1500 miles on it so maybe that will change after a few more miles. oh yeah i forgot to say that this mileage is far better than my 13/mpg out of my dakota and 19/mpg out of my rx-8 (Message edited by jeremyh on August 16, 2005) | ||
| Doughnut |
I get 45-52 with my 96, leaky S2. | ||
| Buelluk |
Trojan, At least you get to expense it , and you will probably find the equivalent price is closer to $7.70 (Imperial) Aaah terraced houses ..takes me back ...but I won't be coming back permanently...it's too bloody expensive to live in the UK and the houses are very small. (Message edited by buelluk on August 16, 2005) | ||
| Tahoe_xbuelligan |
Acquision of oil. Dont want this to turn into a exahust post.....just my opinion, go ride! | ||
| Skyguy |
Ouch! $3.01 for premeium in San Bernardino CA. Anyone want to buy a really awesome 4x4? I can't afford to drive it anymore. | ||
| Ara |
If you're tired of this, go to www.house.gov and www.senate.gov and ask your Congressman and Senators to call for a Joint Congressional Inquiry into why the price of oil has gone up 40 percent in the last year. You might also mention that the cost of diesel has gone up 80 cents in the last year and how that's squeezed the trucking companies. (Message edited by ara on August 18, 2005) | ||
| Midknyte |
why the price of oil has gone up 40 percent in the last year real good question, put that way... | ||
| T9r |
http://zfacts.com/p/35.html  | ||
| Bonesbuell |
I'm risking life and limb due to the gas prices. Riding my Buell to work (Washington DC) instead of truck cost less on the bank, but raises risk on health. Insane drivers! Is it illegal to carry bats, machetti on a bike, heck they're not concealed on a nakid bike  | ||
| Midknyte |
remember the days (prolly still out there) when handlebars were jerry rigged as shotguns. Even heard tales of "sights" (marked and aligned mirrors). | ||
| Ara |
Personally I think it'd be great fun if they made a paintball gun that was small enough to carry in a jacket pocket. | ||
| Cruisin |
Well, Airsoft and PHX make some nice handguns that shoot 6mm plastic bb's. You can get 6mm paint balls as well. Wouldn't a cager just FREAK if you pulled out a handgun and started firing away? Mwahahahahaha!!! Fully metal 1911 replica, the only difference is it would have an orange ring around the barrel.  (Message edited by cruisin on August 18, 2005) | ||
| Kdan |
Great, you pull your paint ball gun and some chucklehead whips out his Glock and dusts ya. Naw, I'll stick with my finger and rapid acceleration. | ||
| Blake |
It's just supply and demand. If people start eating steak every day, the price of beef would do like oil. Blame energy hungry China and India. China's economy is exploding and it all requires energy. Time to give up the gas guzzling SUVs and full-size pick-up trucks as status symbols. Get the hybrid versions. Open up ANWAR, build more nuclear power-plants... etc... | ||
| Dagwood |
Consumption - United States vs. World (1998) Oil 18.92 million barrels/day 73.6 million barrels/day (40% total) Natural Gas 21.34 tcf/year 82.2 tcf/year (23% total) Coal 1.04 billion tons/year 5.01 billion tons/year (23% total) http://energy.cr.usgs.gov/energy/stats_ctry/Stat1.html Translation: The US uses BY FAR more energy than any other country in the world. | ||
| Briz31 |
Petrol prices in Brisbane Australia: Last week they were around the $103 litre. This week they are around the $119 litre. There is quite allot of thieving b#stards here in the oil industry, profitering to the MAX. I'm glad I ride to work, I can still get almost 2 weeks out of a $10-$12 fill up. Last year I sold my Jeep Wrangler... PHEW... | ||
| Slaughter |
Dagwood - Problem is that the metric used for ENERGY is restricted to conventional energy as used in the USA/developed countries. If you look at ENERGY in terms of the amount of CALORIES or BTU's expended in using manual labor, the amount of energy expended in wood gathering and then the BTU's generated in wood burning and charcoal creation (and then burning) - then take the "wasted" energy in high mortality rates of under and un-developed countries, the energy spent growing the feed for beasts of burden and the energy that those same beasts expend... well, you get the picture. Subsistence agriculture in Africa/Asia is INCREDIBLY energy inefficient. It is a shame that nobody is willing to look at TOTAL per capita energy costs as an engineering problem and NOT a political one. What would happen were we to switch over to hunting/gathering and use muscle machinery to produce? We'd only feed ourselves and NOT produce surpluses of agriculture and goods which are exported. Sure, we can't butcher and eat our cars when they are too old but they can be recycled in other ways. This is NOT to say we're not wasteful - just that there is an energy COST to even the most meager existance and it is VERY HIGH. (Message edited by slaughter on August 18, 2005) | ||
| Brucelee |
This post cracks me up! The question for everyone who is whinning is: How much SHOULD gas cost per gallon? Putting aside the taxes that are levied ALL ALONG THE PRODUCTION CHAIN, what SHOULD the price of gasoline be here in the USA? The answer is that the price is being set by supply and demand. Demand has and will continue to be altered by price and of course, so will supply. Not instantly, but over time. So, as prices rise, producers have more incentives to find and refine more oil. As prices rise, alternatives to gasoline become more viable. So, what is the problem? How much should gas cost? BTW-If you live in a high cost area like San Diego, how much SHOULD your house cost? Answer-If you are the seller, as much as you can get for it. If you are the buyer, as little as you can pay for it. Sounds familiar? Right now, sellers are smilling in SD and buyers are crying. But, that could change, no? Lets move on. Drive less or get a different vehicle. Adapt, that is what we humans do best. (Message edited by brucelee on August 18, 2005) | ||
| Road_thing |
There is quite allot of thieving b#stards here in the oil industry, profitering to the MAX. Care to back that up with some facts, there, Briz? We've been here before... http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=4062&post=272246#POST 272246 I don't mind when people complain about rising prices, but when somebody calls me and and my professional colleagues a bunch of thieving bastids, I get a little pissed off. rt | ||
| Bigdaddy |
RT, I believe after it goes to $3.50 per gallon it's time to upgrade my Suburban to the new model -- at a pretty substantial discount. :-) Greg | ||
| Brucelee |
Isn't great having to compete with countries that keep repeating the mistakes of the past! Carter could be the best export the USA ever had. From today's WSJ. Enjoy! China Does Carternomics August 19, 2005; Page A12 We don't know if the Chinese have suddenly appointed Jimmy Carter as their energy czar, or whether it just seems that way. The two- and three-hour long gas lines now stretching down city blocks in many provinces in China are certainly an unwelcome reminder of the 1970s when U.S. policies caused a similar energy panic. So let's think of this as a teaching moment. In China today, many of the same Carter-era policy prescriptions for high energy prices have incited the unprecedented gas lines. The government has imposed price controls on oil and gas in an effort to fight inflation, just as the U.S. did back then, and in the last few weeks it has even resurrected another Carter-era gem, a "windfall petroleum profits tax" on oil and gas producers. Perhaps Chinese President Hu Jintao will soon deliver a televised speech to the nation wearing a cardigan. By holding domestic prices to about $10 a barrel below the world price, according to the International Energy Agency, Chinese oil firms have discovered they can make more money selling energy abroad than at home, thus lengthening the gas lines. Gasoline shortages in recent days have become so severe that Hong Kong's South China Morning Post reports that the waiting lines have infuriated "everyone from taxi drivers to farmers across the country, and could threaten social stability." Two other Asian nations, Indonesia and the Philippines, have also been toying with oil price controls and gasoline rationing -- so they might want to watch and learn from the Chinese mistake. Price controls that are set below the market price always exacerbate shortages, because the artificially low price causes demand to rise and supply to fall. With the price no longer permitted to equilibrate supply and demand, consumers wind up paying not with dollars, but worse, through waiting lines and lost hours in the day. That's what beleaguered Russians learned many times over when they waited in grocery lines for price-controlled bread and chicken and chocolates during the Soviet era. And it is what enraged Americans learned when parked in gas service station lines at 7 a.m. during the 1970s, which, since it included both the Nixon and Carter years, was arguably the worst period for U.S. economic policy during the last century, Herbert Hoover excluded. A windfall profits tax only discourages increases in supply by disincentivizing further production. High profits are precisely the desirable signal that a market sends to firms to find and produce more oil and gas. The good news for the Chinese is that they can look to history for a way out. When Ronald Reagan became President in 1981, two of his first official acts were to immediately repeal all Carter-era oil and gas price controls and to repeal the oil windfall profits tax. Oil prices soon rose to their natural market level, and through the invisible hand of the market, production rose, consumption fell and prices began a steady decade-long decline. The U.S. energy "crisis" was over. |
