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Rageonthedl
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK anybody have a Dyno of the Race can Vs. a Drummer on the same Bike and same dyno??

I have 100hp and 85tq at the wheel now, i wanna see if i can get a bit more out of her (for muffler i have the Race can)
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Buellman39
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

100hp HUH interesting. I'd say that dyno is off a little
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Jedwele
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think Rage has some head mods so I wouldn't be suprised if he was making 100rwhp.
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Dana P.
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rage is giving no BULL with his numbers.Check his mods.
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Kds1
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rage,
Race can makes good peak, but with the Drummer, off idle it would be making power instead of waiting all the way across....

Kevin
www.kdfab.com
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Go to Kevin's website and the dyno charts. I think it's the second one down.
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Rageonthedl
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, i have Race kit and stage 3 heads

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Rageonthedl
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i looked at the drummer site...looks to be all XB9's. here is a dyno of my bike stock, then race kit, then with race kit and heads (our old dyno computer took a crap so i took the run off a disk i had and used photoshop to put one on the other)

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Hogs
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rage...

So all you did to the engine inside sort of speak is install the heads, with your other mentioned mods.., but no cam work ??
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Rageonthedl
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah that is with Race Kit, Heads (here are the heads specs....heads decked .015", 1.900" intake and 1.615" exhaust valves .600 lift springs), Wrapped head pipes, cometic gaskets (base and head), stock air box (even have snokel in) and yes stock cams

(Message edited by rageonthedl on July 30, 2005)
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Buellerx
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought you would have to do some more engine work to get 100HP at the wheel. From the Dyno,it looks like the power comes on a little late. How does it feel when riding it?
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Joele
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, that's pretty good. What did that head work run ya?
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 01:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you mean "snorkel" or "velocity stack"?
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Rageonthedl
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 03:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oops missed the "r", but yeah i have the snorkel in.

as for the power coming on late, it does but it pulls harder right off the line so you dont really notice it. but thats all do to the CNC porting and the big valves you loose some velocity.

and for the price on the Nallin Stage 3 heads...im gonna say is that i got them for a very very good price, but if you were gonna get them done i think its like $1,100
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Blake
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why would you leave the snorkel in? I mean with all the other performance work, why leave the cheapest, easiest performance mode undone?
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Dana P.
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake cause what it did for him is restrict some of the air and richened it up.I actually remember talking to Rage and said to him try putting the snorkel back in.You know what it worked.BTW You know how many have complained of pinging???Well if I take my snorkel out thats what I get.If I leave it in runs perfect.
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Xb12rene
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If it runs lean use a TFI, it helped me. Due to the high temp. here in the southwest I had pinging problems even with the stock setup. I installed the Hillbilly-Motors racekit (FAST, Deep Thunder, TFI). My TFI is not really dialed in yet, due to the lack of a Dyno, but the pinging is gone.

Rene
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Dana P.
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The snorkel though really does not do anything for you performance wise.Without it in or out.
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Rageonthedl
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

only thing i noticed is that top end in 5th gear it pulls just a bit faster to red line with it in.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sure glad you guys touched upon the snorkel issue. I plan to run Odie's pipe one day with just the stock ecm & a K&N filter. I was thinking I should leave the snorkel in to avoid a lean issue & now I'm pretty confident that I was on the right track.
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Opto
Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can get more air with a K&N and snorkel removal.With more air and more fuel we get more power, some people want that more power. The hard bit is to get the more fuel to go with the more air. Otherwise you risk pinging.
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