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Lake_bueller
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 12:04 pm: |
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Okay...here's the scoop: Moving into a new house next week. I want to do the garage floor while it's still empty. But I've heard very mixed reviews on the available products. Please feel free to chime in with your experiences. And yes, I've look at mats and tiles but the price is a little to rich for my blood. Thanks!!! Dennis |
Coolice
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 12:42 pm: |
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I've seen a few done with the Rustoleum 2 part system and they are holding up well. Also check out Behr paints for garage floors. |
Kevyn
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 01:02 pm: |
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I just sealed mine with a Quick-Crete product and it's holding up really well. Oil wiped right up without any staining. Hot tires are a problem... Go to a business that deals with commercial concrete supplies and try to get an oil-based penetrating sealant for the absolute best stain resistant sealer. From my own research, you'll probably need to 'prep' the surface if the floor has been used prior to sealing. If the floor is freshly poured, it will be one step less... It's worth doing well, it has to last and provide the level of protection you want and deserve. Good luck!! |
Road_thing
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 01:50 pm: |
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Use the 2-part epoxy paints from any of the big paint companies. I've done two different garages with them and they're just about bulletproof. I've used real light colors, almost white, and it's amazing how much brighter my garages seem to be. Plan on one day to acid wash the floor (I used muriatic acid--get it at a swimming pool supply store and dilute it about 10:1 with water) and let it dry. Then plan on another day to let the epoxy dry once you've rolled it on. Also, don't plan on ever using that paint roller again! rt |
Jon
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 02:04 pm: |
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Dude use linoleum tiles instead. Go black and white race checker motiff...that's what I did. |
Ftd
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 02:51 pm: |
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I used: www.ucoatit.com It worked well. Here is a good article: http://www.kitcarmag.com/techarticles/50479/ |
Ftd
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 03:00 pm: |
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Not the best pics but before and after: Frank |
Dana P.
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 03:12 pm: |
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Lake are you keeping your garage heated???If not tile are not gonna work.I've done my floor with all the products above with no succsess.They all peeled or my truck or car would pull it up where it was parked.The reason????Winter is the reason floors around are neck of the woods have to much condensation in the concrete that it sweats every year and not to mention it shifts when it get cold and then gets warm again and so on and so on.Over the long haul the floor goes to crap.I bought the mats that work awesome and last forever.Green,blue,tan,black or in my case grey.BTW if they do some salting up by you that adds to the problem.Dana |
Jon
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 03:49 pm: |
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That's a good point, Dana. I live in the Cali Bay Area so the season cycles are less severe. I did notice the mats in the paddock areas of Laguna. They look like they work really well. (Message edited by jon on July 15, 2005) |
Bomber
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 03:52 pm: |
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I had poor luck with rustoleum -- however, I did get a little moisture with the baggie test, so I wasn't surprised however, that was only half the floor -- the other half (same test results with the baggie, mind you) was painted with Griott's garage floor paint -- holding up nicely 3 years on . . . . baggie test = duck tape a piece of plastic on the floor and leave for a couple/three days (tape our the entire edge of the plastic, please) -- pull her up, and look for accumulated moisture -- moisture migrating through the floor = likely problems down the road |
Patrickh
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 04:50 pm: |
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Lake_Bueller, I work in the paint industry. You first need to test the floor for moisture. Take a 2X2 piece of polyethelyne sheeting and duct tape it down to the floor. If you have condensation on the inside of the sheeting after 24-36 hours then you cannot paint the floor because there is too much moisture coming up through the concrete. Moisture is what causes bubbling, flaking and peeling. If no condensation, then you can go ahead and etch the concrete with a good scrubbing of water and muriatic acid (use a palmyra brush, those stiff brown-bristle jobbies found on outdoor brooms work well.) Make sure you hose off the acid wash good and let it dry real well. Finally apply a two part epoxy paint. Any one part oil or polyurethane based floor paint WILL exhibit hot pick-up, where the tire temperature in the summer after a long ride will cause the paint to stick. |
Dana P.
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 04:59 pm: |
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Patrick did that test but still came up on my floor and winter time you'll always get some condensation no matter what.I on the other hand am in the commercial Janitorial service and floor maintenance business for 11 years.Just not a good idea to do in are area.The only real reason I tryed to attempt this on mine was because it was a floor that was done before.Once done your always maintaining it. |
Patrickh
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 05:18 pm: |
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Dana P. Really, that sounds strange to me. I live in the North East so I figure our climate is not too different from yours. Excessive condensation is a problem, but it can generally be fixed with venting to the outside. The most common reason paint peels is a lack of properly installed vents. condensation + road salt = peeling paint. That being said, I like the heavy duty floor mats myself. |
Dana P.
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 05:25 pm: |
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My roof is a Ridge vent.More the enough.The walls are drywalled and insulated.Salt is a problem in most of Wisconsin hwy's and larger city area's.I went with the mats and wish I did from the beginning.... would have saved me hours of time spent prepping a floor that wound up a mess regardless. |
Lake_bueller
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 05:46 pm: |
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You guys are killing me. Not finding a good solution. I really like the look of a painted floor. I'd install a garage heater but I'm already "in the hole" with additional move-in expenses. The 2 companies I was concidering were Durall and US Industrial Coatings. They both seem to have a much better product than the "off the shelf" brands. They're about 65% epoxy (Rustoleum is water solvant, I believe). My other problem is a lack of move time. I have one afternoon/evening and about 3 hours the next morning to complete the project. I'll post an update once I decide on a product. Dana...where did you get your mats? |
Dana P.
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 05:49 pm: |
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Dennis I bought them at Menards for $113.00 a piece.They work great.Don't creep or move at all.And lay perfectly flat. (Message edited by bads1 on July 15, 2005) |
Bomber
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 05:57 pm: |
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Mennis -- at Dana's prices (hey, when didja change yer persona, Dana?), it's a better solution, and much cheaper as well -- I think I'm going to Menard's this weekend! btw, they also sell screens to cover the garage door opening -- a HUGE good thing! |
Dana P.
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 08:03 pm: |
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Yeah Bomber just want to be called by name I guess.Makes it much easier at BadWeb gatherings.Back on topic though I also have one of the Garage door screens that are awesome and just minutes to put up. |
Newfie_buell
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 08:35 pm: |
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OK, Why would you need a screen that large to cover the garage door???? You got mega bugs up that way? |
Coolice
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 08:35 pm: |
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I have the solution, being a hvac contractor. Install a heating/cooling system (I have my garage heated and cooled) so the floor is not exposed to the extremes and the humidity is maintained. Plus the Buells and the cages really like it too! Then the floor coating/ covering will last longer. So Lake just move in and then take a weekend to do the floor and then get your garage at least heated to keep the moisture in check by maintaining a constant temperature. I have installed more and more systems in garages for people that have their "toys" in them and am amazed at how a little heat goes a long way as far as preserving both the "toys" and the floor covering. |
Dana P.
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 08:59 pm: |
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Now we have all the extremes covered. |
Tramp
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 09:05 pm: |
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MOM? What does 'anal retentive' mean? |
Jon
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 09:29 pm: |
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It's when you get constipated, son. Now go back to sleep... (Message edited by Jon on July 15, 2005) |
Dana P.
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 09:35 pm: |
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Gotta remedy for that too take 4 or 5 Exlax and about a quart of Prune juice and that'll clean ya out.LOL |
Buells Rule! (Dyna in disguise)
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 09:59 pm: |
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Garage floors are meant to have vehicles parked on them, tools dropped on them, oil spilled on them etc. They arent walls & dont need paint. Please slap the outta me if I ever paint my garage floor..course with a 50'x36' floor that would be a huge task anyway. |
Dana P.
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 10:14 pm: |
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To each there own I guess. |
Buell12hundo
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 10:17 pm: |
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maybe try some herculiner bed liner from k mart or something like that |
Jon
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 10:19 pm: |
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Nothing like a clean garage. |
Tramp
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 10:24 pm: |
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I like some oil stains on my bare cement floor... when did motorcycles become avante garde furniture? Please save a few slaps for me, as well, if I ever mix wrenching with interior design.... |
Dana P.
| Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 10:36 pm: |
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Hey Dyna why did ya stick that black and white checkered floor in your trailer??? |