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M1combat
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 01:01 pm: | 
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Homer's hero? The guy on the duff beer bottle? His name is Ulysses?
Sorry  .
Anyone read Chaucer? A little off the "myth" subject but good reading anyway. Better than shakespeare IMO...
Anyone do any research on the pegasus? |
Eor
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 01:14 pm: |
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I hope Ulysses isn't named after US Grant, but if it is and I ever get one, I may have to name my personal XB12X "Traveller"
(Message edited by eor on July 26, 2005) |
Whodom
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 01:41 pm: |
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"Hero" and "Little Sorrel" would work too... |
Ted
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 01:49 pm: |
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the end of the 'weather' monikers.... |
Blake
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 02:54 pm: |
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Anony,
"Lots of cool symbolism matches in the story, aren't there?!"
I noticed that right off, and even more so upon reading some the Buell ad text. Very cool stuff.
I'm sure it would have been interesting to be privy to discussions about the naming of the new bike.
Cool name or no, I want one. Buell could have named it "Rosanne" and I'd still want one.  What a bitch that would have been.  |
Doughnut
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 02:57 pm: |
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Nope, definitely not after Grant, but after Homer's hero.
The new Buell Duffman ! |
Steve_a
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 04:10 pm: |
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LONG VERSION, pirated from the web:
Odysseus (called Ulysses in Latin) was the son of Laertes and was the ruler of the island kingdom of Ithaca. He was one of the most prominent Greek leaders in the Trojan War, and was the hero of Homer's Odyssey. He was known for his cleverness and cunning, and for his eloquence as a speaker.
Odysseus
Odysseus was one of the original suitors of Helen of Troy. When Menelaus succeeded in winning Helen's hand in marriage, it was Odysseus who advised him to get the other suitors to swear to defend his marriage rights. However, when Menelaus called on the suitors to help him bring Helen back from Troy, Odysseus was reluctant to make good on his oath. He pretended to have gone mad, plowing his fields and sowing salt instead of grain. Palamedes placed Odysseus' infant son in front of the plow, and Odysseus revealed his sanity when he turned aside to avoid injuring the child.
However reluctant he may have been to join the expedition, Odysseus fought heroically in the Trojan War, refusing to leave the field when the Greek troops were being routed by the Trojans, and leading a daring nocturnal raid in company with Diomedes. He was also the originator of the Trojan horse, the strategem by which the Greeks were finally able to take the city of Troy itself. After the death of Achilles, he and Ajax competed for Achilles' magnificent armor; when Odysseus' eloquence caused the Greeks to award the prize to him, Ajax went mad and killed himself.
Odysseus' return from Troy, chronicled in the Odyssey, took ten years and was beset by perils and misfortune. He freed his men from the pleasure-giving drugs of the Lotus-Eaters, rescued them from the cannibalism of the Cyclopes and the enchantments of Circe. He braved the terrors of the underworld with them, and while in the land of the dead Hades allowed Thiresias, Odysseus' mother, Ajax and others to give him adivice on his next journey. They gave him important advice about the cattle of the sun (which Apollo herds), Scylla and Charybdis and the Sirens. From there on the travels were harder for Odysseus, but they would have been much worse of it wasn't for the help of the dead.
With this newly acquired knowledge, he steered them past the perils of the Sirens and of Scylla and Charybdis. He could not save them from their final folly, however, when they violated divine commandments by slaughtering and eating the cattle of the sun-god. As a result of this rash act, Odysseus' ship was destroyed by a thunderbolt, and only Odysseus himself survived. He came ashore on the island of the nymph Calypso, who made him her lover and refused to let him leave for seven years. When Zeus finally intervened, Odysseus sailed away on a small boat, only to be shipwrecked by another storm. He swam ashore on the island of the Phaeacians, where he was magnificently entertained and then, at long last, escorted home to Ithaca.\
Experts think that the Odyssey, attributed to Homer, may have been a very long performance piece in pre-literate Greece, passed on from singer/poet to poet, and finally compiled and written down by Homer. While there certainly was a Trojan war, the later Greeks (after 6 century BC) thought of the time of the Trojan War as the "Age of Heroes", when unmatchable men like Odysseus and Achilles lived, and the Gods made themselves known routinely. Odysseus could spin tales and charm the pants off even a Goddess, and later Greeks and Romans began to find this aspect of him repulsive, and deplored his dishonesty. (The double standard was hard at work; while Odysseus was having adventures and getting it on with princesses and goddesses, his wife Penelope was staying faithful at home, fighting off suitors who figured Odysseus was probably dead and marrying the queen might be a good idea.) But perhaps the most important thing for the naming of this motorcycle is that Odysseus ventured to hell itself and yet finally made his way home. |
Davegess
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 05:03 pm: |
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But perhaps the most important thing for the naming of this motorcycle is that Odysseus ventured to hell itself and yet finally made his way home
That would indeed be an appropiate name then.
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Nitsebes
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 05:44 pm: |
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In Homer's Odyssey, the tale begins just as the Greek warrior Odysseus sails off into the sunset after successfully conquering Troy and ransacking a seemingly impenetrable city.
Although it required nine years of mostly unsuccessful fighting to accomplish this feat, it was the now infamous Trojan horse that sealed the fate of tis once powerful foe in the end.
It begs the question. Was this the first successful application and design of a minivan?
In many ways, the Honda Odyssey has a similar story to tell. |
Blake
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 12:50 am: |
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Wow, talk about a wet blanket. Are you a Buell enthusiast or do you prefer talking about minivans?
"Ransack"... I'd say "conquer."
"Nine years of Mostly unsuccessful fighting"? I'd say "epic adventure."
Geesh dude. LOL. |
Eor
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 02:01 am: |
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Thanks for not posting excerpts from James Joyce's Ulysses 
If that was the inspiration for the bike's name...,well.... we're ••••••• 
Wow...the Nanny Bot "red dotted" the word •••••
Kind of ruined the moment for me...it was a play on accents...you know James Joyce, being Irish and all....
Okay...the second and third red dots represent the letter "O," the two O's serving as substitutes for the letters "U" and "C" in order to suggest a vulgar word pronounced in an Irish brogue...a reference to the nationality of the author referred to above.
See...it just wasn't the same.
Oh...and if you would like a condensed version of Joyce's Ulysses, look here....
http://www.bway.net/~hunger/ch1-ulys.html
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Trojan
| | Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 06:51 am: |
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Ulyesses invented the original Trojan-Horse.
Buells are manufactured in East TROY and their logo features a horses head. That is how we came up with Trojan-Horse Products so maybe the same logic applied at the factory marketing dept when looking for a new name? |
Glitch
| | Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 08:20 am: |
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What's in a name?
Would a rose by any other name still smell as sweet? |
Xring
| | Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 10:01 am: |
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From Tennyson's Ulysses
I cannot rest from travel: I will drink
Life to the lees: all times I have enjoyed
Greatly, have suffered greatly, both with those
That loved me, and alone; on shore, and when
Through scudding drifts the rainy Hyades
Vexed the dim sea: I am become a name;
For always roaming with a hungry heart
Much have I seen and known; |
M1combat
| | Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 04:37 pm: |
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Maybe it should have been Trojan-Pegasus? |
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