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Silversurfer05
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello all,
I am thinking of ordering a 12'O Clock Bar for my bike. I am slowly learning to ride a wheelie and I think this would help. What do you think?

http://clearwaterbiker.easystorecreator.com/Browse_Item_details.asp/Item_ID/52/c ateg_id/82/parent_ids/0,82/Name/12o/repost/1/start/1/end/1/Count_Class_2_52/2721 65
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Leftcoastal
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why not attend Keith Code's "Wheelie School" which is available at his California Superbike School? Knowledge and ability will always be superior to gadgetry.

AL
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get a dirtbike and ride offroad. It'll be a lot more fun to learn that way.
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Olinxb12r
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If that is your plan you should get a cage also.

http://www.powersbikeworx.com/CrashBars.html

Also, I don't know if you realize, but a 12 bar does not help you learn how to ride wheelies. If you accidentally hit the 12 bar you will probably crash. If you are just learning wheelies you probably have nothing to worry about as far as scratching your tail anyway. It would be a much better idea to get a cage first for while you are learning and then buy a 12 bar once you know what you are doing and you want to scrape. You don't need a 12 bar till you are doing slow (20 mph and less) wheelies that are straight up in the air. Just my .02, but you can of course do whatever you want. It is after all your bike.
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Wheelsleaning
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't see that as an aid to learning wheelies.
That item is more of a trick tool.
Best tool for wheelies is practice, have patience.
I have learned the balance point for 1st and 2nd gear, it is high, but you'll get used to it.
Just my 2 cents.
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Olinxb12r
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have someone take a picture or video of you up on one and you will see that you are probably no where close to touching the tail.
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Cmm213
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with olinxb there is no way that will help you learn, and get the feel of the bike in the air. I don't want to sound like an but if you are learning wheelies right now you should probably work on the balance point and shifting through gears in the air. If I were you I wouldnt even think of putting your feet back there for stand ups untill you are good and ready. Cause if you screw up with your feet back there you can kiss your xb goodbye it will be destroyed. o hey have fun. I have lost a bike from wheelies but it was when I was like 17. I'm 26 now and know my limits.
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99buellx1
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wouldnt worry about trying to shift gears. Not needed, just work on balance point. The 12 bar wont help. Just work in 1st gear and I second the idea of the cage, if you loose it low speed it can help.
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Olinxb12r
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you really want to learn how to do wheelies and do them well cover the rear brake with your right leg and put your left on the passenger peg. Clutch them up in first gear starting off small and work your way up as you feel more comfortable. It will feel really weird at first, but once you get the hang of standing up you won't want to sit down to do wheelies at all. You will feel like you are about to loop the bike even though it is only a foot off the ground in the beginning. Have someone take pictures or video of you doing it and just keep practicing. If you have a dirtbike or a 50 practice on those to work on getting to and staying at the balance point. If you are really just beginning to learn them you really should buy that crash cage because you will probably fall. Don't try to learn to fast, and don't do it at all if you aren't prepared to fall. Everyone that stunts falls!
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Silversurfer05
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for all the help. I decided to order the Dark Horse swing arm sliders instead. I have been going to the mountains and practicing my skills. learning to corner means more to me than anything. I will wait a while until I try the wheelie thing. Thanks again.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Excellent decision.
With the exception of the occasional accidental mini wheelie, I couldn't bring my front tire up to save my life. I'd love to learn to do them but not on my XB. If I screw up & get hurt fine, but if I screw up & the bike gets hurt that's bad. Very bad.
You got the right idea. Use the XB to hone your cornering speeds. If you still have the wheelie bug, get a cheap used & abused bike to practice wheelies on.
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Alstroker
Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I try wheelies almost every time that I ride. I have never been a great wheelie rider. Even on a dirt bike but I am much better on the dirt bike than a street bike. What I struggle with on the buell is once I get it up to the balance point it just plain scares me since it is so high. I can tell I am at the balance point but I just don't have the balls to keep it there.
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Ortegakid
Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good choice ss, never been a big fan of wheelies, and cornering gets me so #$@^#$@#^$ happy, keep it up!
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Spatten1
Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al,

What helps me is to make myself roll the throttle off in a small increment once the bike gets high, rather than chopping it and rolling it on again. That discipline makes me pay attention and analyze what the bike is doing, rather than crapping my pants and busting fork seals.
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Cmm213
Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey spatten sounds like I ride just like you, I learned to do that too. Usually can keep the bike in the air for a long time, and saves the fork seals. Olinxb12 is right about the stunt thing, there are 2 kinds of riders those that have been down and those who are going to go down sometime.
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Bbstacker
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 02:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I find the bikes work much better when both wheels are on the ground. My two cents.
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