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     Gomo |
L  k at this - A brand new untitled X1 White Lightning. I guess there are still a few new tubers still out there. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=49985&item=455 6923548&rd=1 (Message edited by gomo on June 17, 2005) | ||
| Lastcyclone |
That bike is at Conrad's HD in Joliet. Has been there for three years or more. I'm pretty sure they are pulling out of Buell sales. I bought a new SX there last fall and got a great deal. If that price does not go much higher it could be a bargain. Extended warranty + fresh oil, maybe tires= great deal on a bike like that. There are quite a few untitled tube frames if you look hard enough. If you are interested "WIZ" sells the Buells there and "Joey" is the Buell wrench. | ||
| Gomo |
I did notice a couple of other Buells on ebay from them as well. | ||
| Blackbelt |
man that is a great price i got my X1WL for just under 10, so dang i was had...lol | ||
| Bandm |
List price $11,395 minus save $3,400 off list price equals $7,995 reserve. To me 70 miles isn't brand new. I would wonder how severe that 67 mile beat was, before proper break in. | ||
| Ryker77 |
One just like this went for 6 or 7g on ebay a few weeks ago. It was in Washington state. Too dang far. I think it had been titled but placed in storage the same day. Plus on cycletrader an used 2002 X1w in Il. with super low miles for 5g. | ||
| Taxman |
*Price, if shown, does not include government fees, taxes, dealer vehicle freight/preparation, dealer document preparation charges or any finance charges (if applicable). Final actual sales price will vary depending on options or accessories selected. there fees could add up if your not carefull. i like the look of the tubers quite a bit. | ||
| Ryker77 |
I like a tuber because they are just a bit larger. But the X1 has a weird square nut sack area -- you know were the seat and tank meets up. m2, s1, and S3 are alot more friendly. I wonder how many time that dealer passed up or screwed up selling that x1w. Most sales guys mark the bikes up for there pay check. And I doubt any of them know the buell market. I laughed at the local dealer that had a 1999 S3 for 6,000 with 20k miles. Told him good luck. | ||
| Ray_maines |
Bandm: The reserve is $6,500 actually. I sent an e-mail and asked. | ||
| Bandm |
Yes Ray the listing has been changed, $7,995 seemed a little high. So does $6,500 + fees for a 3 year old demo bike. Dealer vehicle freight/preparation fee is what $500, PM wheels are listed in the options,"Photos may show optional equipment", "Final actual sales price will vary depending on options or accessories selected". I would call and see what is included with this bike and what the fees are before bidding. Could end up being $8000+ if those PM's are actually on the bike. | ||
| Ray_maines |
Now here I go getting myself in trouble again; I've never owned a business, much less a retail sales business, and certainly not a bike shop so I obviously don't have any insight to share here, but......... Harley dealers are a real mystery to me. It seems they would rather just hold on to a Buell for four or five years at full sticker price (plus some exorbitant "Dealer Prep. Fee"  than drop the price, get rid of a slow selling bike and move on to something that will sell and, therefore, make a profit. The dealer has a wad of money tied up in his inventory and he's either paying interest on the loan for that inventory, or it's self financed and that money could be used for something more productive. Either way, slow selling inventory takes up floor space, needs to be insured and presents the image of an unsuccessful business operation to customers. | ||
| Lastcyclone |
You're not in trouble Ray. Very good insight actually. Here is the flaw that I recognize. Harely dealers sell Harleys, most have for years. Buell on the other hand is a relatively new and obviously novel product. They certainly aren't accustomed to selling them (very few persons excluded) and attempt to sell them the same way. Remember a great majority of Harleys sell at or even above the sticker. People order their bikes and gladly wait months to get them. When they do get them, the dealer also knows that they can probably sell them all sorts of chrome bits and ad ons adding even greater profit. They certainly are not inclined to mark down any bike. New Harley buyers know that they can pay top dollar now, ride the bike a few seasons and loose next to nothing when it is time to sell. Sport bike riders know that for the price of a new XB, they can go to a Japanese dealer, (which there are more of) and get a "faster more powerful" bike for less. If I'm correct, Harley now makes bigger money on accessories, service and apparel than they do on motorcycles. Also the "wad" tied up on that 02 Lightning would be a whole lot less than a wad tied up on a Screaming Eagle Ed. Full bagger had it been hanging out for three years. | ||
| Lastcyclone |
You're not in trouble Ray. Very good insight actually. Here is the flaw that I recognize. Harley dealers sell Harleys, most have for years. Buell on the other hand is a relatively new and obviously novel product. They certainly aren't accustomed to selling them (very few persons excluded) and attempt to sell them the same way. Remember a great majority of Harleys sell at or even above the sticker. People order their bikes and gladly wait months to get them. When they do get them, the dealer also knows that they can probably sell them all sorts of chrome bits and ad ons adding even greater profit. They certainly are not inclined to mark down any bike. New Harley buyers know that they can pay top dollar now, ride the bike a few seasons and loose next to nothing when it is time to sell. Sport bike riders know that for the price of a new XB, they can go to a Japanese dealer, (which there are more of) and get a "faster more powerful" bike for less. If I'm correct, Harley now makes bigger money on accessories, service and apparel than they do on motorcycles. Also the "wad" tied up on that 02 Lightning would be a whole lot less than a wad tied up on a Screaming Eagle Ed. Full bagger had it been hanging out for three years. | ||
| Ryker77 |
"If I'm correct, Harley now makes bigger money on accessories, service and apparel than they do on motorcycles." Its called up sales. They'll sell you a 13,000 bike but the offer other parts, riding gear and service at a "discount". Sometimes its not the bad most of the time it is. I talked a buddy out of a nighttrain from Earl Smalls HD. He then went to Stone Mtn HD and got the same bike for almost the same price but he got "free" boots, jacket, gloves, helmet, and I can't remember but 1-2k worth in upgrades plus free install. They even sent parts out to be powder coated black for him. |
