| Author | Message | ||
     Rageonthedl |
So i put her on the dyno to see how she runs and to take a look at the A/F and it all looks good!! Im gonna run my buddys XB12R tomarrow so i can post them agianst each other (my runs were on our old dyno computer and they all go lost) but anyway...100.10HP and 85.15TQ (im happy with the numbers for now) the A/F is good, I just put the stock air box back on and took the choped on out...well at least till i get the FORCE and TFi..then i might put it back on and see what it will do. | ||
| Hogs |
Hey Rageonthedl, Keep me posted wd. ya as I also run the force and tfi etc. etc Thanks Pal... | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
This is with NHRS heads right? | ||
| Rageonthedl |
yeah thats with just the Heads and Race Kit | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
wish we had a before run so we could compare the curves... | ||
| Rageonthedl |
Thats why im gonna run a 12R with a race kit tomarrow... thats if he rides it to work. i should have ran my bike but o well it will be close. | ||
| BadS1 |
Mike thats awesome.So I was guessing right that the stock air box would help rich'n it up enough that its not lean....thats great!!!BTW the muffler came via UPS and is in good shape like you said.Its now just stored for good keeping.Thanks Man!!! | ||
| Fullpower |
wow that is the first 100 horse XB i have heard of. what mods? very interested in your parts. will you post the dyno? is compression stock? cams? thanks, dean | ||
| Rageonthedl |
First pic is just the New Dyno Run, the second is my bike stock and with the race kit, but we have a new computer on our dyno and all of the runs on WinPep are gone so i used photoshop to put the new runs on the old runs. Here are the Mods. Race Kit, Nallin Stage 3 heads CNC ported with 1.900" intake and 1.615" exhaust valves, .600 lift springs, heads were decked .015, cometic base and head gaskets.  | ||
| Rageonthedl |
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| Hogs |
Rageonthedl Nice, Stock bore and stroke?? Do you mean the heads were machined .015 thats all? 1.900 intake and 1.615 pardon me but are these oversized never got into the xb`s yet so I don`t know?? whats cometic base and head gaskets are they the stock thickness or thinner?? so is this all your engine mods except the springs?? | ||
| Hogs |
Hmm , I forgot to ask ya if the valve seats are stock ? Also are you just using the race ecm by itself.. | ||
| Rageonthedl |
Bore and Stroke are stock. I just had the heads decked alittle to make sure they were flat. yeah the valves are over sized and are the old XL/EVO style valves (stem is much bigger than the XB) Cometic gaskets are constructed of an embossed stainless steel metal substrate coated with a proprietary hi temperature rubber material that virtually eliminates leakage when joining two metal surfaces. Head gaskets are a multi-layer design, require no dowel pin o-rings, .040” head and .020” base gaskets (they are thinner). and yep thats all, i even still have the snorkel in. | ||
| Rageonthedl |
No, new valve seats as well. yep just the race ECM no TFi..ill post the Dyno Graph with the A/F tomarrow, i just forgot to put it on this one here just look at the Stage 3 Heads thats what I have http://www.nrhsperformance.com/headworkbuell.shtml (Message edited by rageonthedl on April 22, 2005) | ||
| Hogs |
Hmmm, Looks like My baby will be getting the treatment after the summer..I wd. Like to find a smashed xb12 to do a project out of the motor... | ||
| Rageonthedl |
Hogs what kinda numbers you getting with ur force and TFi. | ||
| Hogs |
Hey Rageonthedl, Numbers ... No numbers, No dynos here just rely on what I can feel being rich or lean , Yeah its a guessing game but with the force muffler on the stock 12 header it pulls hard got a tfi on it still playing with that plus the reg. other mods.. Got a power commander on route as well, Got no 100 ponies on the rear wheel though :-))) or :-((((((((( BUT I`ll catch ya next year LoL Did someone say 1450 kit.. :-)Going to build one and set it on kill , If I can get 3 or 4 thousand miles on it I wd. be MORE than HAPPY The old BAr Hopper | ||
| Rageonthedl |
as of now all i am gonna do is Force and TFi this summer, 1250cc and cams next winter. No dyno?? why not?? where you live we have a dyno at work and i use it all i want...for free ha ha ha ha | ||
| Blake |
Do you recall what peak HP your race kitted bike made? You don't have a printout of the old dyno run? | ||
| Rageonthedl |
Best run ever with the race kit was 96HP. the second pic i posed is of my old runs with the new run photoshoped on top of it you can see 3 runs, stock, race kit, then with the heads...sorry it is kinda hard to see (Message edited by rageonthedl on April 23, 2005) | ||
| Blake |
Imadumbass. Thanks for explaining to me and not calling me names.  That is one heck of a great dyno report on the three different configurations. Thanks for sharing that. The race kit sure gives good bang for the buck. | ||
| Fullpower |
so nallins stage 3 heads are good for a hundred horsepower? that is very enticing. i feel itchy wallet syndrome. | ||
| Hogs |
Well So how much does that work out per horsepower the heads that is over stock and those other mods all a counted for ??? | ||
| Gaz |
More to the point, can I get it done over here in Scotland? Need to find a quality machine shop though as I'd probably go for the 1250 and S3 heads. Think I'll e-mail NRHS in case they have dealt with anyone over here. I'm salivating at the thought. | ||
| Rageonthedl |
"Well So how much does that work out per horsepower the heads that is over stock and those other mods all a counted for ???" Huh??? | ||
| Blake |
$1,100 for 4HP over race kit = $275/HP | ||
| Hogs |
Thanks Blake thats what I was after, That works out to probally like 325. 00 per H.power to me here in Canada, Damn them ponies are $$$$$$ And then again one still has to get the labor bill on top of that as well...If you can`t do it yourself that is, So I`m thinking the best Bang for your buck wd. be to Stroke and big bore that puppy, IF ya want a better return for the $$$$ | ||
| Rageonthedl |
Well I only Spent $50 total in parts and labor for the heads. Heads were free and I did all the labor (only took like 2 hours to take it all apart and like 3.5 to put it back together...gotta make sure everything is TQed right) only thing I had to buy was Scramin' Eagle cylinder studs and the rocker box gaskets. | ||
| Hogs |
Well then , LoL 12.50 cents per horsepower is CHEAP can you fix me up :-))) | ||
| Rageonthedl |
Sorry, im lucky I got them myself all im gonna say is "Its not who you know, its who I know" lol | ||
| Hogs |
Rageonthedl, For what its worth , I am running a force can on my stock 12 header and it seems to be running okay to this point, have now put on a tfi also and have that set at pot 1=3, pots 2 and 3 =0, and pot 4 = 7:30 to 7:45 seems okay... Will play with pot 2 and 3 more but just a little at a time, ( told George at TFI what I am running and he said to try 3,5,3,8 but I will perhaps try that but a little at a time ) I think alot of ppl. have plms, with the force when using the header it comes with being different length and size and all, with the stock 12 header I don`t think its much of a change than using the D&D, latus, race, or the drummer for that matter as I have tried all of the above...However the FORCE SOUNDS the BEST :-))) | ||
| Hogs |
LoL Yup I know what ya mean there , I`ll probally try a few of them head works myself as I have ported and polished a few over the years myself etc.etc Just cleaning up the castings etc., and decking the heads 5 angle valve job, etc one wd. be surprised the better performance this gives and its Cheap if again you can do it yourself :-)) | ||
| Rageonthedl |
When I get the FORCE im gonna get the header also not just the "muffler" hopefully it will free up a few more ponies. I did not do my heads my self they are the Stage 3's | ||
| Hogs |
GooD LucK |
