Author |
Message |
Nemster
| Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 02:45 am: |
|
What are the laws concerning these? Anybody know? I live in NC and there is an auto window tint law but I am unclear of the regulations concerning these. I want a blue tinted visor. Thanks!! |
Ravensmith22
| Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 05:59 am: |
|
I believe most states treat them just like sunglasses. Ok during the day, but not at night. If I'm going to ride later in the day, I carry my clear visor in my bag for when it gets dark. |
Jlnance
| Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 06:23 am: |
|
Hey Gary, I don't know, but I am in NC as well and I have never heard anyone say anything about having legal problems with tinted visors. I remember when the auto tint law went into effect. The reason it was passed is so that police officers could see into your car as they walked up. That wouldn't be an issue for a helmet visor, so I suspect it doesn't matter. What part of the state are you in? |
Budo
| Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 09:30 am: |
|
Heavely tinted windows are a problem for LEO when they approach a car they dunno if a gun is being pointed at them or how many people are in the car. |
Blublak
| Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 09:32 am: |
|
Like Raven said. I know in VA it's treated the same as sun glasses. If you're wearing a dark tint shield at night they could ticket you for it. Other wise, there should be no problems for regular day wear. |
Nemster
| Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 01:29 pm: |
|
Jlnance, I am in Winston-Salem area. Thanks for the replies guys. I wanted to make sure before I went that route that I would'nt get busted for something stupid!! |
Rocketman
| Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 09:45 pm: |
|
A couple of years ago the Trading Standards dept successfully campaigned to have tinted visors made illegal in the UK. This was despite much outcry from safety campaigners, motorcycle cops and even government funded testing that found in favour of tinted visors for daytime use, never mind us the riders regularly using / wanting them. How effing stupid is that? Rocket |
Iamike
| Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 09:50 pm: |
|
Rocket- That's why we kicked you guys out of here a couple years back! Unfortunately for some reason now our politicians think that we should do what the Euros do. Go figure. |
Ceejay
| Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 09:51 pm: |
|
I have been ticketed for wearing darks at night, small town ohio that led to a whole nother story, set of problems. I now carry my clears with me if I know I might be out late. |
Cyclonemick
| Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 11:38 pm: |
|
I think Blue might look cool but it couldn't be good on your eyes??? |
Twowheeldream
| Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 01:59 am: |
|
I worked for Sunglass Hut for a while and learned a lot about tinting, and what colors of light do what.... a blue reflective coating would be ok, but a blue tint would not. blue light actually strains your eyes, cuases eye fatigue, and will make your eyes feel like they are drying out. when its really hazy out, thats the blue light reflecting off of everything and creating almost a fog. a brown, or amber tint actually helps cut down on the blue light. "Blue Blockers" from back in the day were an amber tint and cut down on that blue light, creating a clearer and crisper image. (cutting down on the hazy effect) another tip... if you go with sunglasses over a tinted shield... bring your helmet with you when you buy. You can find a pair that are comfortable and easy to put on, plus if you get a polorized pair, make sure you look through your clear shield with the glasses on to make sure it doesnt cause a "rainbow" effect that can be really distracting.
|
Nemster
| Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 02:46 am: |
|
I meant blue mirrored!! Sorry |
Jerseyguy
| Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 08:09 am: |
|
I've got the silver mirror shield on my Shoei RF900. I love it during the day. Its great in the sun. At night it really sucks. I've been caught a few times in the dark and you can't see much. I still use it 90% of the time though. You can change to a clear shield in less than a minute - assuming you have one with you. |
Mr_grumpy
| Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 04:32 pm: |
|
You never see Oz with a tinted visor, He wears shades day & night, even sleeps in em, it's true I swear. See you in may Oz. |
Jeremyh
| Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 05:56 pm: |
|
it is a VISOR, not a WINDOW |
Outrider
| Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 03:59 pm: |
|
I guess I don't understand the purpose of the new law in the UK. Changing a visor from tint to clear doesn't take much more time than changing your glasses and the effect of a visor is much clearer that a poor fitting pair of sunglasses that bounce up and down on your beak causing slight distortion and the inability to quickly identify fast approaching road hazards like sand or gravel. The only time I have heard about this in the past was quite a few years ago in the moto mags. I don't remember if it was China or Japan (I think it was China), but a law was passed banning full face helmets as they were commonly used by the bad guys when robbing a store or doing a mugging. In essence, the LEO's decided they needed to get better descriptions of the perps either from the victims or the video surveillance. For some reason, I have a feeling that that law may no longer be in effect, but it sure was amusing at the time. |
Henrik
| Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 04:35 pm: |
|
poor fitting pair of sunglasses that bounce up and down... Not to mention what happens to a pair of glasses in a "crash and bump your head" situation. A friend of mine recently had to have major facial surgery after his glasses shattered inside his helmet in a crash. Henrik |
Jeremyh
| Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 04:52 pm: |
|
Outrider, thats a brilliant idea. My wife would love to use that idea of a full face helmet to rob a bank. No she's not going to rob anyone but she is totally into bank robber shows and like that. Thomas Crown Affair BLa BLA BLA. anything theif like. Funny thing is she would never actually steal anything. |
Bomber
| Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 05:57 pm: |
|
couple of years ago, in Ireland, all the banks had signs outside demanding the removal of MC helmets before entry -- made me chuckle |
Outrider
| Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 05:16 pm: |
|
In my case, it isn't poor fitting sunglasses, it is my regular "I need them to see" glasses that bounce all over my beak and give me headaches which is why I wear contacts most of the time. Then the problem with the contacts is the breeze in the helmet dries them out and I am back to the poor fitting sunglasses. LOL Catch 22, eh? Of interest, this only happens on my X1. Never happened on any other bike I have owned including the Harley. Hmmm...perhaps I should use some of that glue my wife uses to secure her support cups (some kind of totally strapless bra) when she wears some of her slinky formal dresses. LOL |
Buells Rule! (Dyna in disguise)
| Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 05:21 pm: |
|
I have prescription sunglasses that fit pretty damn well & have eliminated the need for a tinted visor but I still use them at times anyways. The best I have found so far is a blue tinted irridium shield. Works great for the sun but you can still see thru it at night, kinda like having the best of both. |
Outrider
| Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 06:02 pm: |
|
Dyna...Is the blue tinted irridium shield kosher in Wisconsin at night? I think they are really sharp and would like to get a mirrored one to go with a black/gray/white helmet. Heck, the police around here are busting folks for yellow tinted goggles at night. Needless to say like my helmet shields I always carry both smoke and clear for a quick change. Then it is no big deal for me as I never leave home without at least a tank bag full of useful items...Like my rain suit. LOL |
Buells Rule! (Dyna in disguise)
| Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 06:23 pm: |
|
I havent had any issues with the shield at all & why would the cops bust for yellow tint? Is there an actual law on the books prohibiting it or are the cops just being jerkoffs? |
Wyckedflesh
| Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 06:29 pm: |
|
the yellow are made for night as they help draw in the light, that makes no fricken sense... |
Outrider
| Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 09:35 pm: |
|
Agreed about the yellow at night, but from what I was told by the HOG Chapters is that in Wisconsin the law says clear at night. Needless to say the LEO's use any leverage they have to up the County Coffers. Never looked through one of those coated shields. Are they actually clear with a reflective coating or is there some tint to it? Never mind that is probably too subjective. Think I will just head to a store and check them out |
Sandblast
| Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 11:13 pm: |
|
I use the Blue shield that Shoei sells for my RF-1000. It is awesome during the day, and to be honest it does not bother me too much at night either. I have never felt the need to switch to the clear shield that came with the helmet, let alone carry it. Check out my profile pic to see the helmet. On a related note my Dad just sent me a set of Blue iridium polarized replacement lenses for my Oakleys- best lenses Ive ever looked through. |
Buellkowski
| Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 11:58 pm: |
|
Here's Washington's law: WAC 204-52-080 Light transmitting ability of eye protective devices. (1) A "clear" EPD shall transmit not less than eighty-five percent of the incident visible radiation. An EPD transmitting less than eighty-five percent of incident visible radiation shall be considered "tinted." (a) A "tinted" EPD shall not impair the wearer's ability to discern color. (b) A "tinted" EPD shall not be used at any time from a half hour after sunset to a half hour before sunrise and at any other time when due to insufficient light or unfavorable atmosphere conditions, persons and vehicles on the highway are not clearly discernible at a distance of 500 feet ahead. Like I'm going to whip out a clear visor when Mt. St. Helen's blows again... |
Court
| Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 05:05 am: |
|
|