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Jeffb
| | Posted on Monday, August 06, 2001 - 07:23 am: | 
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MikeJ,
I would be happy to show some folks over to S&S and take a walk through the factory. There are some nice roads around here. S&S is about an hour from Sauk and then it is about three hours back to Milwaukee.
JB |
Jasonl
| | Posted on Monday, August 06, 2001 - 09:31 am: |
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Dart - really...watch those boys if you let them near your cycle again. EVERY time I've seen a dyno run they've had a big fan blowing on the motor. |
Dart
| | Posted on Monday, August 06, 2001 - 04:51 pm: |
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Blake and Jason,
Great words of advice. It was the first time I've tried to get my M2 dynoed and was definitly the last at this dealership anyhow. I was supposed to come in this Saturday to re-dyno, I think my broken exhaust rear (hoop style) clamp was even hinting torwards never letting them touch Molten M2 again.
THANKS
Steve
Molten M2 |
Slayer
| | Posted on Monday, August 06, 2001 - 06:14 pm: |
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I am on web tv and do not have the capability to upload pics or graphs. The S2 pictured in my profile regularly runs 11.0's and 11.1's in the 1/4 mile at the dragstrip. The motor is T-Stormed 74inch stock displacement with some port work and such.Another racer Dale Tyson, runs 9.90's with the stock displacement in a custom lightweight chassis. I only bring this up as a comparison to the 91inch S+S motor mentioned above. I am in no way an expert but I would have to guess that the 91 inch S+S is capable of a lot better than low 11's at the strip. The S+S cases are a great product, even if pricey.... |
Jeffb
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 07:29 am: |
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Slayer,
I agree my bike should run faster. I checked out your bike and it looks good. If you have any pointers on setting up the chassis I would like to hear them. Right now it is bone stock, including the rear tire. My mph is similar to yours at 119, but the first 300 ft. for me is pretty bad. My 60 ft. times are around 2 sec. I also have to say that I don't have much experience drag racing. I have only been to a stip twice and haven't had much advice on improving. Are you running an airshifter? I couldn't quite tell from your picture. How did you lower your bike? I am sure that if my bike was set up and had a good rider on it, the times would improve buy A LOT!
Thanks
Jeff |
Fastback69
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 10:51 am: |
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Does anyone have a dyno chart of a stock cammed M2 with the race header/muffler? Aaron, do you have any comments on this. I'm considering the race exhaust for my bike. |
Aaron
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 11:33 am: |
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I think Battle2win has done that test and shown results. Call'em and get the back issues. I personally would expect big gains through the mid-range, about the same on top. |
Fastback69
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 11:45 am: |
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I have several issues so I'll pick through them again. I don't remember seeing a test with an M2, though. If I get the race exhaust, I'll get with Cap and get it dynoed and post the results. |
Mark_In_Ireland
| | Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2001 - 12:14 pm: |
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I've just had my 1998 S1 Lightning dynoed and it gives 76 rwhp at 6200 and max torque of 74 ft/lbs between 2500-4000rpm. I'd guessed 75 and 75 from my 'seat of pants' dyno so wasn't far off!! Anyone want me to 'seat of pants' dyno their bikes please form an orderly queue......
I'll post the curves when I get hold of them.
Rocket, your bike is going to feel like a missile and I'll probably need to change my pants..... |
Cmodtopgun
| | Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2001 - 05:25 pm: |
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What are good numbers for a 2000 S3 with a V&H pipe and the race ECM?
While down at Deals Gap last weekend, I had them do a dyno run, and was pretty dissapointed with a 83 HP and 71 Ft Lbs Torque reading.
Advertised is 101 hp and 9o lbs of torque, I assume that is at the crank, and differs from my readings at the rear wheel.
The dyno operator said that I was running rich, and had I changed to a K&N. I hadn't yet, and he flet that I would get significantly higher numbers with the air filter change.
I put in the K&N, and seat of the pants tells me it is much crisper (pulls the front wheel, and the overrun burble is gond)., but haven't had the opportunity to get back on a dyno.
What should I be looking for?
Thanks
Haven't figured out how to post my dyno run as a jpeg yet, but it dosen't look that great. If you are interested, ping me @ cmodtopgun@aol.com and I can email to you. |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2001 - 06:33 pm: |
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MinI
Missile sounds good to me .........so......Rocket's Missile
Rocket in England |
Aaron
| | Posted on Friday, August 24, 2001 - 10:01 pm: |
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I was in the dyno tonight adjusting the brakes (a constant battle) and took a shot of this, just to illustrate how the thing works.
This is the one and only sensor ... there's only one tab on that plate, so it's sensing once per revolution. It just times how long it takes to make each revolution and extrapolates hp and torque from that interval and the mass of the drum. Pretty simple device. The error comes in from things like the condition of the bearings and the accuracy of the weather measurements.
AW |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2001 - 05:52 am: |
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Looks like it needs a new brake rotor, and that wire connect looks a bit suspect too
Now I'm beggining to understand where those high numbers come from, yeeha !!!!
Rocket in England |
Aaron
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2001 - 10:56 am: |
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Ah, the brake is only used to shut it down, it's not doing anything during a pull (hopefully). Damn thing is annoying, too. It eats brake pads. And the design of it's mounting makes it not self adjusting. And adjusting it is a pain. And changing the pads is an even bigger pain.
The inside of the dyno is grubby as hell, between the grease film and the brake dust. It's amazing the electronics in there even work.
I dread the day I have to change that brake rotor. Looks like the whole rotating drum assembly has to be removed. And this dyno, being a cart/ATV unit with a motorcycle kit, has 2 drums.
AW |
Al_Lighton
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2001 - 12:45 pm: |
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Cmodtopgun,
Here my 99 S3, V&H (and mystery muffler, more on that at a later date), race ECM, Race air cleaner
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Squiz13
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2001 - 05:12 pm: |
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Squiz13
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2001 - 08:32 pm: |
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this was a standard S1 with the Buell race exhaust system fitted the bike had done 5000 miles.
This is why I say that not much can compete with the Buell race system.
The main component on a Buell is the length of the HEADER PIPES.
The race systems header pipes are the perfect length,END OF STORY. |
Charley
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2001 - 04:36 pm: |
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Here the first dynorun of my new engine,87 ci
Haven't start tuning jet that will be a winter job
but it looks good so far
C ya Charley |
Peter
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2001 - 04:46 pm: |
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Charley,
Now you've got the 6 speed, is that a 4th or 5th gear run?
(I'm not jealous....)
PPiA |
Charley
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2001 - 04:54 pm: |
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4th gear run , i guess i need a bigger carb(i use
the HSR42 for now) and race headers with a big muffler , nice winter job.
Nice lines to start with or what ?
The Rivera Pro-clutch is great and smooth , 1 finger pull-able |
Aaron
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2001 - 05:07 pm: |
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VERY nice! |
Charley
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2001 - 05:14 pm: |
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Thanks Aaron , what do you expect ?
I guess i can lift the torque curve up a bit more
and get some more topend with a race header with
a big muffler and a bigger/better carb.
I did No tuning at all at this moment , just set it up and checked if it was not to lean or to rich.
10.5:1 CR, 3 13/16 millenium cylinders,Wiseco pistons , ported heads 1.84 int/1.7 exh ,
crane HI-4e single fire,HSR 42,Buell race filter
2.5"headers Supertrapp IDS,Red shift 585 |
Aaron
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2001 - 06:00 pm: |
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I think you're on the right track, the exhaust system is the big thing. The torque curve looks wonderful but that downhill slide from 4500 means you're not getting as much cylinder fill up there as you could be. A good exhaust system can do wonders for it.
Tell you what, Pammy has a damn good 88 incher, she could probably offer a much better informed opinion than me.
I *think* she runs an HSR45 pro-back on hers.
Ron of course lives and breathes 88 inch motors, he may have some suggestions, too. He has one that makes 153rwhp. But it's got Baisley dual carb heads. One hell of a bike.
Congratulations, it looks like a winner!
AW |
Clydeglide
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2001 - 08:05 pm: |
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I kinda remember Pammy telling me hers has a CV44.
Clyde |
Pammy
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2001 - 10:30 pm: |
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CV44
.600 lift Andrews
3 13/16 AAC
J.E./Axtell pistons
Stock valves
Ported by Cycle-Rama
Crane H.D. valve springs titanium retainers
Crane roller rockers
Crane adjustable pushrods
S&S rods
Crank balanced and trued by the great Chuckholio at Cycle-Rama.
Tranny mod by R&D, Billet trap door, new style detent plate.
I do have a 45 proback at my disposal, but I have to wait my turn around here.... |
Tripper
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2001 - 10:47 pm: |
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...and a sound that will raise the hair on your neck and make you drool. |
Charley
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 04:57 am: |
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Pammy , where did you post the graph of your 88 Buell ?
I like to compare it and see what i need to work up to.
Thanks Charley |
Pammy
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 07:47 am: |
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there is a sad copy of it at cycle-rama.com |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 09:12 pm: |
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Bring it to Bonneville Pammy darling
Rocket in England |
Pammy
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 10:09 pm: |
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and get my beautiful beast all salty? surely you jest....
Come to sunny Florida and take her for a spin...
I might take her to North Carolina sometime for the LSR run. Purely for my own amusment, of course.
Pammy |
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