| Author | Message | ||
     Blake |
Chris: Trust me on this; I am DEAD serious. Please do NOT run your Buell without the carb bracketry. Please remount your carb support bracket. Without it your intake manifold (the only thing supporting your carb and intake/filter) will be vibrating SEVERELY and very soon you will have intake seal leakage with the resulting lean conditions and risk of piston damage; not to mention the chance you are taking of dropping a $300 carburator and a $200 intake on the ground at speed with the resulting free flow of gasoline and possibility of fire in your lap. Please, we want you around to ride Buells for a long time, please, remount that bracket.  | ||
| Orion |
Which brings up an interesting issue. The Forcewinder instructions are very weak in this department. The instructions say to take the bracket off, but never mention it again.  J.D. | ||
| Iggy |
i second j.d.'s thoughts on the force instructions. additionally, my original seal ring was disintegrating on its own. wouldn't want to lose the carb at speed. if i were in chris's position (which i was) i would at least consider the bracket, it ain't that ugly. iggy (much happier since i put the bracket on) | ||
| Bigfanof6 |
Guys, I'm touched! Actually I left the bracket off until I got the carb jetting sorted out. I put it back on yesterday, and I feel better now. But I really am touched by the concern. Thanks, Blake. And, Orion, I thought I missed something on the instuctions. I'm glad someone else noticed. Thanks again. Chris | ||
| Blake |
BigFO6: We always knew you were a bit touched; but ain't we all?  | ||
| Cyclonem2drew |
Here's a question for the board. I have a Force Sidewinder intake and a Crossroads Devonator Breather set-up (Blake, you saw the pieces). The breather set-up uses a metal "luggage handle" that spans between the two breather bolts, and the bolts themselves are replaced with banjo-bolts. The problem is leakage. I get leaks from the front of the unit and the back...not horrible, but enough to matter. I tried a small amount of gasket sealant behind the unit, around the nylon washer behind the unit, and on the front between the banjo bolt and the front of the unit. Any ideas about sealants or better washers? I have heard elsewhere that banjo bolts and HD breathers don't mix..I'm hoping there is a solution, other than cleaning the thing every other ride. The oil buildup concerns me. | ||
| Leeaw |
That's why I stayed away from banjo bolts. I was told they would leak. | ||
| Bigfanof6 |
Drew, I just installed the Screamin Eagle breather tube (see my post on 8/15) which uses banjo bolts, and although I have only put about 75 miles or so in the bike since then, I have ZERO leakage. None whatsoever. There is a washer behind the carb bracket, a washer behind the breather tube, and a washer in front of the breather tube. (Six washers in all) It is working great. For 36 bucks... Hope you get it staightened out. Chris | ||
| Loki |
Drew, Try a couple pieces of bicycle inner tube between the washers and the banjo fitting. Loki | ||
| Chuck |
Drew, my breathers came with nylon washers; but they didn't seal well. I got some copper sealing washers from the auto parts store. They fit perfect; and their color sort of matches the header pipe. | ||
| Sportyeric |
My dealer suggests that rocker box gasket failure may be a result of a pinched breather hose. I've extended that notion to consider the restriction created by running both breathers into one 5/16 (or whatever it is) hose. | ||
| José_Quiñones |
Sportyeric:
You mean like the factory does it in the stock airbox? | ||
| Jmartz |
Jose: Have you tried the Blast rocker boxes on your S3? | ||
| Leeaw |
Sportyeric, My rear gasket went at around 3,000 miles and prior to my installing the Sidewinder. Now, at 11,000 miles and with a tee into one hose running under the seat, I have not had any further problems with it. I would take a guess at less than top notch gasket material or assembly. | ||
| José_Quiñones |
José Nope, not yet! Maybe this winter. José Q. | ||
| Buellsht |
I've been reading all the posts regarding breathers and air cleaners (hate the breadbox). I,ve been thinking about using a screaming eagle twin cam air cleaner. Should flow pretty well and fairly inexpensive. I was also wondering if anyone had ever thought of tying the breathers together under the carb and running a hose into an automotive type plastic fuel filter with inlet and outlet both on top.breather hose to inlet outlet hose up under the seat. Small compact, catch can and filter all in one. When it needs emptying go to kragen and replace it for five bucks. | ||
| Sportyeric |
Jose. I'm on a Sporty, which has the breathers each entering into the filter case through two hollow bolts from the heads. I don't remember how stock Buells are set up. I haven't dug out the original equipment to look at the S.E. Sportster set up re diameters. I just wonder whether running two into one on the hoses might decrease the efficiency. I also have to consider (my) possibly sloppy workmanship. Once a year is twice too often. I guess my question is: have people had rocker gasket problems who haven't re-routed the breather into less than stock diameter outlets? Up 'til now I've considered this a vibration issue that is unavoidable without major cash outlays. I'm looking at all possible causes. BTW, the XL list has a recent rocker box leak reported on an untouched Sporty still under warranty, which again suggests faulty installation. | ||
| Mikej |
Eric, Many stock, totally stock, Buells have had the rocker gaskets leak. | ||
| Sportyeric |
Thanks Mike. It boils down to sloppy install, vibration, or bad design. I'll hope for the first. The first time I took my engine apart, I was astounded to see that the front exhaust port was maybe 1/3 or more plugged by the exhaust gasket. No wonder the thing had no guts. Makes me wonder every time I cinch it up how well its seating. (Many times, no problem.) Human error at the factory. But Buellers need not feel singled out. My Sporty was assembled in '92. They just haven't fixed the problem yet. | ||
| Supermod |
Had a friend who built an 883 into a 1200 w/ new factory cyls and t-storm heads. The motor puked oil out the breathers before and also after the rebuild. He called Brian Nallin , who said the problem is blowby, that factory clearances are poor and to rebore and hone by someone w/ torque plates. I had my cyls bored last winter, torque plated, clearanced @.0017, gapped the rings (buell says not to grind them,but butted rings are BAD) properly, no smoke no oil. -See you, Clay--PS- Brian has the proper equipment and knowhow to rebore harley cyls | ||
| Scotty |
Was out surfing and ran across this www.kartshop.com/mall/action/ | ||
| Az_M2 |
HELP - I would appreciate any tips / feedback regarding the installation of the Buell Race Air Filter. I have routed the breathers per instructions, which are supposed to 'T' directly behind the backplate with a single tube feeding into a hole in the backplate and into the box. The problem is that there does not appear to me to be enough space between the throttle body and backplate for the breather lines. I have not been able to get the backplate to mount flush. Should I keep trying or just route the breather lines to a catch can? I would greatly appreciate experienced feedback. Thanks in advance . . . Chris | ||
| Lake_Bueller |
Looking for a catch can.... I've finished guting the air box on my '98 S3T. My final stage is to add a catch can. The problem is I can't find anyone that carries them. I tried American Sport Bike but don't feel like spending $123 on a billet can. Who else sells them???? Thanks, Mennis | ||
| Orion |
Lake_Bueller: If you leave your oil level halfway between the marks on the stick (1/2 quart low) you probably won't need one. I've been running like that for a couple thousand miles, and my filter doesn't spit out a thing. J.D. | ||
| Road_Thing |
Lake_Bueller: Buy a little black plastic bottle of chain saw oil for a buck and a half. Use the oil to lube stuff in your garage. Zip-tie the bottle to your battery box and run your breather hose in through the top. Cheap and invisible.  This pic isn't mine, it was posted here some time back. I found the same bottle at the local hardware store and built basically the same setup, but I put the bottle cap on top. r_t | ||
| Bomber |
Mennis . . .come see me this winter . . .I'll fire up the lathe and we'll make ya one . . . . . btw, it would seem that some Buells drool, and others don't . . . mine (Y2K M2, stock internals) does, no matter where the oil is on the dipstick | ||
| Sem1 |
Well, my S1W drools alot. The stuff that comes out smells like gas. Also, it seems to blow right through the ASB billet catch can and the filter. What gives? Could it be that the piston rings are not sealing and the blow-by has increased the crank case pressure enough to cause the symptoms? Anybody know where to have a compression and leak-down test done near Boston? Cheers, Semi | ||
| Lake_Bueller |
Bomber: It's a date. I'll bring the hootch (along with my S3 instrument panel for a temp gauge installation). Now I just need to figure out where this little brass thingy can from out of my carb Mennis | ||
| Bomber |
Oooohhhh . . .. jeez, mennis, that's the canutin valve regulator . . . . .. just stuff it back in any old where, so long as it won't get sucked into the intake seriously, what's it look like? | ||
| Orion |
Keep in mind it's a good idea to put a filter on the end of the breather hose, even if it's going into a catch can like that. It breaths in too, so if you get dusted sitting at road construction (or like off-roading your Buell) it could breath that dust in. J.D. |
