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Shoggin
| Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 - 09:41 pm: |
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I posted this in the EBR forum as well.. On a 2014 SX I have got as far as having both the stock dash and ECM updated and confirmed the quick shifter function had been "turned on". I can see the dash diagnostics go from 1.3V to 0.0V at the side stand when I activate it, but nothing actually happens when I ride it? Some deets: It is a Dynojet 4-113 linear push sensor wired into the factory harness. I have used a different type of grounding sensor as well (no luck there either) I also have an IDS ECM. I am told has the shifter function enabled as well... that does not work... but also sees the voltage drop on the dash diagnostics. It doesn't work on a stand, in gear, clutch out, and manually grounding the signal wire to the ECM either. I have repeatedly asked EBRtech and all he has said is it "needs a different signal that just a ground" but won't elaborate further. Nor do I understand how that could be possible with their EBR 2 wire switch between a ground and a signal wire? Resting 'open' and grounding when activated is all I can guess? I know for a fact this exact Dynojet sensor works on a 2014 RX with the IDS ECM. I am frustrated and cant get EBR tech to elaborate? I'm a pretty tech savvy guy, and I'd assume if the dash can see the voltage drop on the side stand where you wire it that's all you need? Do I need to swap the pins in the ECM input like some XB's? If so...where??? Thanks for any help guys |
Ourdee
| Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2017 - 01:06 pm: |
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Does the tech possibly mean that it has to be running, rolling, and within the correct parameters to function? ie. not just sitting in the shop. |
Snacktoast
| Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2017 - 07:42 pm: |
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Good point Ourdee. EBRs race ecms for XB & 1125 required that you were at WOT for the function to work. Is it the same for EBR models? |
Ourdee
| Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2017 - 09:42 pm: |
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Ask Dean Adams. I believe he is running one. |
Toxic
| Posted on Friday, September 29, 2017 - 03:01 am: |
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My EBR race ECM doesn't require full throttle for the QS to work |
D_adams
| Posted on Friday, September 29, 2017 - 01:57 pm: |
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Full throttle upshifts are not required, nor at redline. I've shifted mine below 6k rpm at mid to light throttle input. I'll ask Dan or Tim to see if I can get clarification on the wiring, I have the EBR factory kit. |
Shoggin
| Posted on Friday, September 29, 2017 - 10:30 pm: |
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I would REALLY appreciate that. The IDS ECM pin-out didn't reveal anything |
D_adams
| Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2017 - 09:03 am: |
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"ECM needs a signal ground reference and a signal. Some sensors require 5VDC for power, that's the 3rd wire." The EBR kit does not use the power wire. Only 2 are required. Tan/white goes to the sidestand switch, Black/white goes to pin 28, sensor ground #2, both of these are on the gray ecm connection. From looking at the dynojet documentation, it's a 2 wire switch and does not matter which wire connects to the harness. It's just a momentary interrupt, sends a signal to the ecm saying "hey, kill power a second" and that's it. |
D_adams
| Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2017 - 09:05 am: |
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Also, I believe the dynojet software allows you to program the interrupt time (length or duration) and minimum rpm required. |
Shoggin
| Posted on Sunday, October 01, 2017 - 02:40 am: |
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Thats true Dean, but I'm not using the Dynojet computer. Simply using the 4-104 sensor which should send a ground signal to the activated EBR ECM just like the EBR sensor does. And this Dynojet sensor works on a friends RX. |
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