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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2014 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Should be a good read:


motorcyclist
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2014 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hell yeah!
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2kx1
Posted on Friday, April 18, 2014 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very interesting. Got mine yesterday.
EBR is trying to make their streetbikes as close to race ready as possible.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2014 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lars, Hard to fathom honesty in a world of posers.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2014 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Related video from Motorcyclist:

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Cyclonedon
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 - 02:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks for posting that Froggy! Please update it when the next article comes out in June 2014,
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It should be hitting stands any day now. The month on magazines is when they remove it from the stands, not out it up.
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Sprintst
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So far, so good. Can't wait for some head to head comparisons
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 - 03:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great article, nine pages worth of reading and slick pics!
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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

some pretty good coverage.
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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder what Harley thought of the headline, BUELL is back.....
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you kidding??

They're so self-centered, I doubt they even took notice. It's not like their "core market" reads that magazine anyway...
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K12pilot
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AWESOME!!

AND UP YOURS HARDLY!!

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Swamp2
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have to say, I enjoyed that issue of Motorcyclist more than any rag I've read in a LONG time. Between the cover story on EBR, Aaron Franks' last page editorial about Buell - and the article about Glenn Curtiss - a lot of great stuff there.

As an upstate NY resident I'm very famiiiar with Curtiss' accomplishments - the museum in Hammondsport is a great destination for a bike ride - beautiful riding in the Finger Lakes. There's a few classic bike events down there annually. Curtiss was an amazing guy, largely unrecognized by the masses for his accomplishments.

I see a lot of similarities between Erik and Glenn - almost like Erik is the "100 years later" version...
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The fueling isn't perfect." (from the video)

Contrary to the other reports I've read. Quite a bomb to so glibly drop absent clarification at the end of the video, along with the minor niggle about the dash buttons being difficult to manipulate.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 04:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting "S2" they talk about . . . . . . oops
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Jdugger
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> "The fueling isn't perfect."

You know, you spend time in this sport and you start learning more of the details and the little trade offs that make up motorsports design and implementation.

I'm amazed any bike runs at all on ordinary pump fuel. There are regional differences in fuel formulas, problems with consistency at the corner store, seasonal changes, and of course, how different the air is region to region, especially those areas in high altitude.

I just got through having my new 1190 motor tuned for VP T4 gas. We (well, the tuner!) took an already professionally developed map and still found another 8 HP and few lbs of torque. Not to mention just how much smoother it runs now.

Anyone else notice how small cars run totally different on rainy days?
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Re: control and fueling comments

I guess other bikes have all of the control buttons on the handle bars, rather than in the fairing on the IC.

I would also tend to thank the EPA for less than optimal fueling issues.

I thought my 1125 was an amazing ride, you guys who are getting the 1190 should take the reviewers comments with a grain of salt

I would have found it hard to believe that the 1125 could have been improved on, for the price point....
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting observation JD.

It is a very positive review overall. That bizarre "the fueling isn't perfect" comment just seemed so out of character, like an afterthought, a cheap shot imposed by an editorial board, not the actual test rider.

The videography was excellent. I'm just irritable and picky.
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Classax
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny I after 4200 miles on mine I still think the fueling is one of the highlights of the bike. On/OFF throttle is nearly imperceptible mid corner. It will surge and buck below 20mph and 2.5K rpm particularly when cold, but the rest is MONEY!

For the record the dash buttons are clearly designed to be operated by the throttle hand. There really isn't anything you want to be changing on it at pace anyway. That said I wear size XL Knox Handroids and its not a problem for me even with my clutch hand.

I'm looking forward to "denoiding" and tuning the ECU with a less "green" focused exhaust, once the equipment becomes more readily available. Hehehe
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is a very positive review overall. That bizarre "the fueling isn't perfect" comment just seemed so out of character, like an afterthought, a cheap shot imposed by an editorial board, not the actual test rider.

It did seem like that didn't it? Like "We don't want to sound too pro-EBR; throw a negative comment in there."
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Bigblock
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Look at and read the cover, man! One tiny snide little comment at the end in fine print? HAH! We'll take it!
They're talking GLOBAL DOMINATION here!

(Yup I've held the mag in my grubby hands...)
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It sounds like they were trying hard to find something bad to mention, and basically couldn't. I can understand what they mean about the dash buttons, on my 1125R it can be difficult to reach them tucked underneath the fairing, while on my 1125CR they are easy to reach and use.

Even if fueling wasn't perfect, that is very easy to fix with software updates or a non EPA compliant ECM.
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Ljm
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just got mine in. Nice article. It covers a variety of things from a review of the bike, profiles of some of the key employees, to an interview the boss. It also details his objectives over the long run, and to the critics on the WSB thread, it appears they are doing exactly what they set out to do.

Oh, and the article also says that the SX and AX are coming by the end of the year.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My wife went out and picked up a copy for me today (had to try at 2 places to find it- that's my girl!). Just finished reading it. Lots of good info there.

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Classax
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its all actually quite encouraging for EBR. The sport bike market has been down the last few years and the naked and adventure segment has been increasing. If the SX and AX perform anywhere near the levels of the RX they will do will have appeal and sell to far more than just the average EBR fan.
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Nvbuell
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2014 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All I can say is nice work Eric and group! We have been waiting knowing that you could deliver despite the obstacles. Like the article says, America NOW has a superbike!
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