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Sgtbuell
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 02:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not at all trying to compare it to the Buell. I know it is a completely different animal.

Just wondering what any of you with experience thought of the Busa. You know just general stuff.
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Littlebuggles


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 03:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A guy I went through rider course instructor training with said it (his 'busa) was his favorite bike, he owned a Bostrom replica Ducati, a Aprilia Pegaso and some other Japanese make (can't remember, uses a cbr600 at the track I think) at the time.

He said it was good for long rides, comfortable and stable, fast ( ) too. Only sold it cause he got screwed on the trade in for his Duc.

Very smart guy, excellent and experienced rider too.

Still second hand info though, hear-say admissible here?
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Court
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 04:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My riding partner pilots what may be one of the more breathed on Hayabusa's in the area.

He commutes to work daily 12 months a year and does a fair amount of open road touring.

The bike is precise, well built, powerful, offers good protection and fast as the dickens.

It's a heavy, physically bulky bike. You can get away with not being terribly concerned about weight at the power the bike operates at.

It would not be my choice as a heavyweight tourer but that is because of my personal predisposition toward BMW for that role. The Hayabusa is an excellent motorcycle.

Court
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Clydeglide


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 07:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got one for my wife a couple of years ago. She previously had an X1 Buell. She loves her Busa. I liked it so much I got another for myself. A few months later I sold my HD dresser. I've never looked back. Ours have been trouble free.

Several people from this board now have Busa's. One member here has an '04 with over 14k miles on it.

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Mikej


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only downside to a 'busa would be the insurance due to it's classification. Beyond that I'd have one. Still might some day.
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Fatpony
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You're SO right about Busas being a different animal! I've got a X-1, XB9R,Superglide, and a 04 Busa. I've found the Busa an outstanding long ride bike. I've raised the bars with helibar raiser, dropped the pegs by using Buell XBS units (did the same mod on my 9R), and installed a double bubble. The Busa is a BIG bike with longer wheelbase than my Superglide but it dosen't feel heavy. It handles great (but it's not an XB!), and the response of the engine is just unreal. Roll on the gas and hang on, it's like water sking. I've got nothing but good things to say . Go to a bike show and sit on all the comparable bikes and you'll be impressed. Mike
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Dago


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what about the kawi zx-12? how does one of these compare to the busa?
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Fatpony
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's an article on one of the sportbike webmag pages comparing both, said the Busa is king. I've only sat on the Kaw, and didn't think it fit me as well. The diff BBS sites bad mouth one another as far as who is faster, both are good bikes, I'm satisfied with the Busa.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Faster, at the speeds those bikes are capable of, is irrelevant.

'Busa is king.
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Firemanjim


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like em,would love to own one.Maybe next back-up bike.Snail has one he takes everywhere,insists its got great off road manners.
Check out this site,alot of great info.I love it for the turbo info.http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/phpbb/index.php
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Craigster
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you like torque you'll love the 'Busa.

99 ft-lb torque peak (stock) and better than 90 ft-lb from 4000 through 10500 rpm
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Buells Rule!
(Dyna in disguise)



Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Faster, at the speeds those bikes are capable of, is irrelevant.

'Busa is king.


Correction, was king.
The 99 Busa was king at 189+ mph before it was neutered.

Now days the Busa is at 180-183. The Kawasaki ZX10R, the ZX12R, Yamahas R1 are all faster than the Busa....in stock form.
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M1combat


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You missed the point Dyna (even though you quoted it)...

"Faster, at the speeds those bikes are capable of, is irrelevant. "

See it now?

What is relevant (in the mind of the speaker) is the overall package (I think, but I'll not assume that). In any case... Why does that matter to you? YOUR R1 isn't as fast as any of them... It's only done 173 ; ).

Sorry Dyna... I just had to throw that in there.
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Buells Rule!
(Dyna in disguise)



Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thats only cause I ran outta road.
I need to head west for a day or 2 & find some board flat roads.
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Rick_a


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

fast as the dickens




Now that's fast!
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You apparently forgot your recent physics lesson on what governs top speed.

An R1 is faster than a Busa? You think that because your speedo showed 175 that you were actually moving that fast? Try more like 90% of that or 158 mph.

I dare you to take your R1 and run it on an inertial dyno for peak RWHP. Be forewarned though that your ego may be shattered and you may find yourself demanding restitution from Yamaha.

Or ask Snail how easy it is to go 180 mph.

Faster than a Busa... LOL!
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Steve_mackay


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, there ya go Dyna, next time Hal's has their Dyno shoot out, you should come out and play : )
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Buells Rule!
(Dyna in disguise)



Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Umm Blake, im going off actual speeds recorded by the various magazines utilizing calibrated radar guns. Do you think im not aware speedometers are optomistic? facts is facts & the new litre bikes are all in the 180 mph range..except for the CBR1000RR which is stuck at a lowly 175.

Really gets to some folks...wont mention any names... that a stock R1 is quite capable of 180+ mph & so far every person who has had an 04 dynoed has ended up with a minimum of 150rwhp..totally stock.

PS..dont forget that land speed records on salt are harder to achieve due to the poor traction available, plus the elevation isnt real friendly to engines either. 4200+ ft above sea level.
Guarantee you if Snail brought his Gixxer to sea level on a hard surface he would easily have punched thru the 190 mark.
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Djkaplan


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Go here, they'll tell you all you'll want to know.

http://www.labusas.org

Don't mention my name...
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Buells Rule!
(Dyna in disguise)



Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bad joo joo over there. You can get info if you want to wade thru all the racist bs & other assorted crap.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Greg,

You said the R1 was faster than a Busa. Which is it. Does an R1 go 180 or is it faster than a Busa, cause a Busa will smack into the limiter at 183, so which is it? Find a pre-limited Busa and the game is over. More power, check; better aerodynamics, check; the Busa wins again.

Who are you trying to fool? When you talk about needing to find a longer stretch of road it is obvious that you are talking about your own top speed which you tout as being 175 mph.

So which is it, is a Busa faster or is the R1 faster?

The Busa is faster. Sorry.

Amazing how you know the dyno results of "every person with an R1." LOL!!!

You have a serious problem my friend. The truth is that it doesn't get to anyone here that your R1 can go 170 mph or more.

The truth is that it gets to you that no one here gives a and by far prefers to ride an Buell.



SgtBuell,

I rode a Busa for a short stint. Didn't get it out of 3rd gear. Took it up to significant triple digit MPH's. It was extremely smooth, comfortable, big, quite, powerful.

(Message edited by blake on December 31, 2004)
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M1combat


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yay Busa!!!


LOL.

Sorry.
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Buells Rule!
(Dyna in disguise)



Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stock configuration as i mentioned earlier the R1 is faster than the Busa, so are the 2 kawis. Remove any limiters & its a different game, lets throw nitrous or a turbo into the equasion also while we are at it.


And a Busa makes more power?
Looks like a draw to me & the R1 weighs 100 lbs less also.
GSX1300R Hayabusa ('99) 159.6 @ 9500 99.6 @ 6750
GSX1300R Hayabusa ('01) 158.0 @ 9750 98.4 @ 7000

YZF-R1 ('04) 158.9 @ 12,750 74.4 @ 10,000


But its great to see you are championing the cause of a japanese inline 4 cylinder..so when you picking up your Busa?
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Sgtbuell
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WOW

Honestly did not expect this much info. I know most of you guys have tons of experience but I guess I didn't know how you all felt about liter bikes.

I have only being posting on this board and others just for the last couple of years. So I am not long in the tooth like some of you. But my little experience with dyna has always been good. Just seems like the man is always looking to go to blows with some one. I mean no offense dyna. I truly think you have some of the more intelligent replies on this and other boards. But when you compare an R1 to a Busa I just do not see those two bikes in the same class. Just my opinion.
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Littlebuggles


Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wouldn't sell my M2 for a 'busa or an R1, no offense. Neat bikes.

(I wouldn't mind having one of each though, if any one is passing them out...)

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Sgtbuell
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 02:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Littlebuggles

Looking at your bike in your profile I think you can officially call your M2 an S1 now. Nice mods.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 02:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Okay, comparable power, check, better aerodynamics check, the Busa still wins. Sorry. It is REALLY killing you that your R1 is not as fast as a Busa! You gotta keep repeating the fantasy that your R1 is faster.

And please don't ever confuse the intent of any of my statements as ever "championing the cause" of any Japanese motorcycle.

You've become the Cecil of the R1. Worse even.

My bike is the fastest; it's faster than any other bike; no other bike is faster than mine; the R1 is the fastest bike; it's faster than a Hyabusa...

LOL! ROFLMAO

Seek help.
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Littlebuggles


Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 02:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks!

S1W is what I was working toward, without the baked right thigh and formica seat.

I knew what I wanted but would never have started if it weren't for that little lady in the Taurus going home from English classes.

Bent forks are a great impetus for change.


-Mike
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Blake
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 02:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you contending that the weight of the Hyabusa will influence its peak speed?

And removing the limiter or finding one of the '99 models that didn't have a limiter is hardly akin to using nitrous.

It really does kill you that a Busa is faster than an R1. This is too funny.
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Ingemar


Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 03:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I'm to believe the latest mag stories, the zx-12r is currently faster than anything else out there. Both on 1/4 mile times and exit speed and top speed.

But honestly I couldn't care less. The topspeed of my buell already scares me for loosing my license.

Quarter mile times are more important to me though, with zx12r times closer to 9 secs than to 10 with an exit speed nearing 150mph. The lowest I've seen for a busa was 9.6secs, but the rest is over 10secs. I don't think I've seen exit speeds over 145 mph for the busa.

Last but not least, I think the busa is an ugly monstrosity of a two-wheeled vehicle. That probably helps me finding info to crack it down. Oke, I'm biased ; )
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