| Author | Message | ||
     Gonen60 |
I use WinMX, are there any other decent sites? | ||
| Darthane |
Heh...I use the iTunes Music Store, but then, I don't think you're referring to 'legal' downloading. I've used LimeWire in the past. | ||
| Gonen60 |
how is it, WinMX is up and used by millions if it's illegal? | ||
| Darthane |
LOL...because they haven't found a way to shut it down yet. Decentralized networking, unlike Napster. If you're not paying for it and it's copyrighted material, it violates federal law. -=shrugs=- I'm not trying to argue you into or out of anything, it was just a comment. I use the iTunes store because then I'm guaranteed of the quality, that I get what I think I'm getting, and it gets replaced if it's ever lost for some reason. It's cheaper, many times, than buying the album as well. | ||
| Jeremyh |
www.allofmp3.com .03 per song | ||
| Josh_ |
Millions of people speed, take illicit drugs and do other behaviors that are not legal. Just because "everyone" does it doesn't make it legal. Is Bearshare still working? A search on download.com or maybe just google for "p2p" or "file share" or winmx should turn up like apps. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Just don't go into a bad neighborhood to buy drugs, then go whining about getting mugged and having your car stereo stolen. Why on earth do you think somebody would build you a piece of client software designed primarly to steal copyrighted material, and not sneak something else into it? We have no concern about other peoples hard work, but we of *course* would *never* violate your privacy or intrude on your system  . Honest No really The people writing software for spamming have the same problem. Guess what... spammers crack software and steal illegal copies of spamming software! The people writing the spamming tools are going out of business and complaining about it... It's hilarious to watch. And distributed system or not, you can still be caught. Not very many people do, but the ones that do typically are happy to get out from under the whole mess for what you would pay for a cherry used S1. Odds of getting busted? Maybe 1% tops. Odds of getting infected with spyware, worms, or virii? 90% if your lucky. I personally have probably pissed away more then 200 hours of my life trying to clean up infected systems for friends and family because their kid just could not resist getting "free" music. Many of those systems, by the time I got them, were completely wide open and had been completely compromised, letting all sorts of personal data out to who knows who... | ||
| Stealthxb |
Start here: http://www.bittorrent.com/ get bit torrent installed. then you can search the net for torrent files or use client software to search for files of other users similar to other P2P programs I prefer: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ | ||
| Josh_ |
>I personally have probably pissed away more then 200 hours of my life trying Speaking of which, if you want to do it right, have a dedicated system setup (or use VMWARE) and only transfer files between it and your main machine very carefully. Configure your main machine (use IP filtering or zonealarm or BlackICE) to block all traffic from the other machine. Have an image (Ghost) of the other machine ready for a quick back-to-the-beginning when you get overly-infected. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Josh is right, that will work reasonably well, though the whole time you are getting shared content, you will also be sharing content, and you never really know what those clients are doing on *your* internet connection. So if you are unable or unwilling to go to that level of defense, "plan B" is to not use p2p clients. Bittorrent is a little different, as it is actually somewhat legit, but there are still too many people misusing it for my tastes. It's a good app with good intentions, but is in too rough a neighborhood for my tastes. Not worth the trouble to me. Good timing, slashdot has a discussion of the topic going right now (complete with the typical slashdot biases... so take it with a grain of salt) http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/04/1749257&tid=99&tid=17 We should actually probably let this thread die, we are pretty far offtopic, unless shazam wants to post his video as a torrent | ||
| Bluzm2 |
I get all mine off of UsNet news groups! I use Agent news reader. Try the groups: alt.binarys.music.mp3.xxxx xxxx = type of music .1920 .1930 .19xx .blues .classical .newage .celtic . . . No cooties! But, you take what's there on a given day... | ||
| Josh_ |
Brad, anyway to get it to automatically check for files (ie look once a day for files with "bjork" in the name) and either download or alert based on that? | ||
| Misato |
anyone want to trade ftp's? 8op and I dont wheelie either, that would be illegal. | ||
| Newfie_buell |
Its perfectly legal to download in Canada. | ||
| Josh_ |
Canada | ||
| Steve_mackay |
if you want to do it right, have a dedicated system setup (or use VMWARE) and only transfer files between it and your main machine very carefully. Configure your main machine (use IP filtering or zonealarm or BlackICE) to block all traffic from the other machine. Have an image (Ghost) of the other machine ready for a quick back-to-the-beginning when you get overly-infected. Or just use a proper operating system. Which is anything not made by microsoft  I've got about 100 gig of Mp3s sittin' on the same box I have brewcitybrag.org hosted on. But you can't reach 'em neener neener neener  Yes, most of that 100 gig is actually legal MP3s, We've got a HUGE CD collection). | ||
| Josh_ |
Yes, but people running LINUX aren't posting how-to questions on BadWeb. You sure you want to make challenges like that? | ||
| Steve_mackay |
Josh, if you want to TRY and get to the mp3S, try to your heart's content. You wont get to them. And no, it's not a Linux box | ||
| Gschuette |
I go to the record store and buy the CD. If you like the band enough to try and steal a MP3 why can't you support them? Only buy CDs if you listen to good music though. Buying a Celine Dion or Fleetwood Mac CD will just encourage them to either come out of retirement or get back together for the one hundreth time. If you must listen to stuff like that steal it at all costs and don't tell anyone unless you like to be made fun of.  | ||
| Voto077 |
Come on now lets move to yr 2005, Ok first off they are not loseing that much money and besides they make like 1 mill a show i make like 50 a day, kinda tough to feel bad for the arstist. Anyway i could go on and on , but the best place for me to get FREE music is ACQUISTION. give it a try , and when your in cali and you see metalica say thanks •••••••. | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
I was going to comment, but sometimes its easier to just walk away. Oh wait, I guess I did just comment. Anyways, I download music I can't buy, and new music to see if I like it. If I do, I buy it. If I don't well if I hate it, it gets deleted, otherwise it just adds to the playlist. | ||
| Davegess |
This whole topic of weither or not to pay for music is interesting and certainly a hot button for this century. Downloads are a great way for new bands to get noticed and you are correct in that the big names are not exactly hurting for money BUT what about the bands that are just beginning to make it. People doing cool music and trying to make a living from it. If not enough people buy this new music than artists will stop making it available. New bands spend a lot of money making a recording, money they make waiting tables ect. and if they don't sell enough CD's to pay the cost than we lose a new sound. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
I have bought MORE music because of downloading! I'm a blues fan, not many ways to hear new music on the public airwaves. What blues you do hear is "main stream" and you hear the same tunes/artists over and over. In my opinion, Clear Channel and their ilk have killed radio in most markets. The sameness of radio stations as you drive across the country is mind numbing! I have a TON of blues MP3's, if I hear a band I like I make every effort to buy the CD. Often you can't get it locally due to lousey selection at most CD locations. You wind up paying a premium via the web, often $20 or more after shipping etc. Sometimes the CD is worth it though. I have sometimes waited for the artist/band to come to town, seen them live then purchased their CD's from them at the show. That way they get most of the profits not the record company. Sometimes the MP3's are of marginal value to me. Same old rehashed riffs, fake keyboard/drum track, etc. Needless to say, I wouldn't buy it even if it was available. That's why I have a delete key. I make notes so I don't download it or buy it. I much prefer the sound of the original CD over an MP3, when I find something I like, I buy it... Brad | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Josh, I think Agent can do specific downloads by using the filter option. I don't use half the features available in the package. If I get a chance, I'll mess with it a bit. I need to upgrade mine as I'm one release behind (1.93 vs 2.0x) Brad | ||
| Stealthxb |
Note to all... BANDS MAKE VERY LITTLE $ FROM RECORD SALES This includes some extremely successful artists. Record companies make money off records. Bands generate the majority of their income from touring and selling merchandise. Therefore, if more people are exposed to a band's music via file sharing the more likely they are to go to a show and spend some money the band will actually see. | ||
| Stealthxb |
Record companies manufacture music. They do not create artists. | ||
| Sportyeric |
The part I don't understand is: where is the motive for things like WinMX? I learned about Kazaa the hard way. Their program adds on basically a virus that uses your computer to send out spam, or something like that, doesn't it? When I tried to remove their shite (Gator), it buggered up my Windows and I had to reformat. But I don't see anything similar on WinMX? What's their gig? The good of mankind? | ||
| Gschuette |
Maybe I should clarify that I think it is ok to buy MP3s but stealing them is wrong. I know they make a crapload of money at every show but if you create something you deserve to make money off of it. They were thoughtful enough to make something you like so show them your thankful. | ||
| Jeremyh |
Gschuette, with the amount of crap music that is out there today they artist should be thankful that you listen to their music period. | ||
| Stealthxb |
The outdated business models of record companies is the reason why most music sucks. Labels force bands into producing formulaic crap that have a history of generating sales. Music that is new or innovative is too risky for them to consider investing in. With file sharing bands have an opportunity to make a direct connection with fans thus allowing them to test new material without having to run it through the corporate machine diluting it beyond recognition. | ||
| Davegess |
I think what is needed is something like the ASCAP/BMI license that radio stations and jukeboxes. These groups collect a flat fee depending on the size of the station and than distribute the royalties based on how much play a song is getting. You could levy a small fee on the ISPs that host music or have a small charge, it would be a few dollars, for the rights to download for a period of time. Than the monies would be distributed based on a formula based on number of downloads. The record companies would not like it much, they make money selling product, this deal would benefit whoever owned the rights to the music. Often that is the record companies, they are very good at getting these rights away from artists but a scheme like this would change that. | ||
| Ethanr |
While it may be true that bands don't make a significant portion of their income from CD sales, that's not the case for songwriters and tunesmiths, particularly newcomers...most of whom don't make nearly as much $$ as the performers anyway. Once upon a time we all simply understood that it was wrong to steal. The only difference between grand larceny and music theft is the magnitude. Both display the same lack of moral character. If it's not yours, the rightful owner deserves compensation for no other reason than that they are the rightful owner...not you. | ||
| Gschuette |
Yes Jeremyh they should be thankful. I don't buy crappy music though only the good stuff. | ||
| Diomedes |
Usenet. Usenet, Usenet, Usenet. IRC. Usenet. Share clients. |
