| Author | Message | ||
     Swordsman |
Okay, so a short time back I got a nasty, nasty virus that simply would NOT be removed from my old XP system. I swore Billy Boy wouldn't get any more of my money, so I ditched Windows altogether and now I'm up an running with Ubuntu. Pretty darn slick for a free OS (not to mention all the free goodies it comes with). My only problem is the sound... I have none. Try as I might, not a peep. Guess that's the one downside to using an open source OS: to fix anything or change settings, you actually need to know how to program!  ~SM | ||
| Glitch |
It may be that Ubuntu doesn't recognize your built-in sound card. You don't need to learn to program, you just need to read. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshoo ting https://help.ubuntu.com/search.html?cof=FORID%3A9& cx=003883529982892832976%3Ae2vwumte3fq&ie=UTF-8&q= sound+card&sa=Search Ubuntu really is the one of the best. It's not Windoze, it's better. | ||
| Froggy |
Yea the one thing that sucks about Linux is getting the thing to actually work, its like an old British bike. | ||
| Swordsman |
Er, Ubuntu makes me cypher through lots of code just to see what sound card is installed. Oh, and I have to know code to even find that much. Then there's kernal compiling and whatnot for modules, or whatever, all handled via command script. It may be more powerful, stable, and safe than Microsoft, but it certainly isn't as user-friendly. ~SM | ||
| Reepicheep |
User friendlyness depends on what quagmire you find yourself in the middle of... I've had some pretty ugly scenarios on both Unix and Windows. But at least on Unix, if its broken, its broken, and if its fixed, its fixed. Windows has this morass of randomness and ambiguity where it tries to "help me" or make things look simpler then they are. It'd be nice if the hardware makers would do a better job of releasing Linux drivers when they build new chips and cards that work completely differently then anything that came before. | ||
| Drfudd |
I'm running Fedora myself. Ubuntu is on a few other machines in the house without problems. Sound is one of the biggest issues with linux today, nothing ever works exactly right. just read the forums and hopefully one of the many fixes will fix your problem. I have to agree with Reepicheep, "if its broken, its broken, and if its fixed, its fixed." that's pretty much how it is, it doesn't just get broken on random occurrences like windows does. So hang in there bro, once you figure out your sound problem, it'll stay fixed. Also once you get it fixed, get VLC media player, it'll be your best friend on linux since it'll play just about anything. | ||
| Spinzealot |
Ubuntu is a pretty solid platform. But as others have stated, getting the correct drivers (Audio/Video) can be an issue. Not all hardware mfr's build drivers for Linux. Once you get it figured out then your golden! Long live Linux! | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
One the other hand, You could buy a Mac, run Ubuntu until you realize that OSX is the best Unix system out there, then you can kiss the windoze world, and other similar operating systems goodbye forever. It is easier to learn how to operate a Mac than to get Unbuntu to do what you want it to. Here is a link to a site that discusses Unbuntu on the Mac. http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_do_i_dual_boot_ub untu_linux_mac_os_x.html | ||
| Glitch |
If it's a built-in sound card, you could do what I've done and get another and install it. Just look to make sure the card you buy is compatible. Fortunately sound cards are pretty cheap. The only pain might be that you may need to disable the built-in one by going through the BIOS. It is easier to learn how to operate a Mac than to get Unbuntu to do what you want it to. It's according to how you look at it. Mac is Linux Also, if you have an existing machine, Linux is free, Mac is far from it. Mac isn't as freeze free as some may think.  | ||
| Greenlantern |
Mac isn't as freeze free as some may think. No, I'm pretty sure that is just you.  | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
Mac isn't as freeze free as some may think. I dunno Glitch. I haven't had a kernel freeze since I switched over to OSX, 10.2, seven years ago. Currently I am running a Mac Pro Quad core with 17 gigs of ram, three internal one tera drives stripped in to two Raid level 0 volumes, a 250 gig internal system drive, and two tera drives in a Raid 0 array as an automatic back up. Dual monitors of course. Runs three printers simultaneously. Everything from scanners and monitors to printers fully .icc calibrated. This system went together in a couple of days, using Softraid for stripping, and Prosoft Data 3 for back up, and that includes the entire software install, driver updates, etc.. Pretty hard to put together a Unbuntu system that powerful, that easily, I should think. The system never crashes, and if a program stops, it can be restarted in seconds. With a 100 gig Raid 0 volume using three drives as a scratch disc, and 17 gigs of ram, this thing slices through Photoshop like a hot knife through butter, and will be a lot faster when Snow Leopard comes out this fall, and the new Photoshop CS 5 which will actually operate as a 64 bit system, (after many years of empty promises from Apple and Adobe.)  Just my .02¢ | ||
| Greenlantern |
(after many years of empty promises from Apple and Adobe.) Adobe It's technogeek for Benedict Arnold. I always loved how they conveniently forgot which platform put them on the map in the first place. | ||
| Indybuell |
Ahem... Excuse me... Mac isn't Linux. Mac is Unix. Linux is a Unix, but MacOS is FAR from being Linux. I don't do all the graphic / studio type stuff. I am a Systems Engineer. I have an MCSE, and a bunch of other certifications. For years, I carried windows notebooks, with the last one being a Dell XPS M1710. Which was supposed to be the cadillac of gaming laptops of the time. It did nothing but lock up. Had constant sound driver issues, etc. In the Fall of 2007, I took the leap, and purchased a Mac Book Pro with Fusion, and 4GB of RAM. I haven't looked back since. I started with running all of my normal business apps, inside the Windows VM, which wasn't bad. But one by one, I moved to the Mac OSX apps. The only one that I have had regrets with is MS Entourage (Outlook for the Mac.) It sucks. Plain and simple. I've added several addins to Entourage to make it livable. But everything else has been running trouble free for the past two years. My Windows boxes would Blue Screen, or slow down so bad from registry rot, that I would constantly be rebuilding them. My Mac hasn't frozen once on me. I get the spinning spiral from time to time, but not unless I have two or three running VM's, and am trying to import photos from my iPhone. Is the Mac perfect, hell no. But in my opinion, its much better than any Windows laptop I've ever had. It works great in my business environment. | ||
| Froggy |
Tomato / Tomado. | ||
| Froggy |
Oh, and everyone knows the M1710 was plagued by overheating issues, which would cause the problems you experienced. I was drooling over it when it first came out, but I knew the Nshittya graphics were asking for trouble. Also, how do you go from a gaming laptop to a Mac? Obviously not much gaming then. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I will say the one thing my Ubuntu laptop setup didn't do well, which the family wanted, was streaming video from the internet (i.e. youtube and flash movies). That was the one valid complaint from the wife and kids. Local video worked GREAT with VLC.... I run that on my XP boxes as well, itll play more files and is much less invasive then Media player. Often it will work great as a transcoder as well (i.e. converting an MPEG file to DIVX or something). | ||
| Greenlantern |
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| Froggy |
I don't know whats more sad, the fact that I wrote that down and translated it back into ASCII, or the fact that you went through the effort to write it in binary in the first place  | ||
| Greenlantern |
I cheated. http://home2.paulschou.net/tools/xlate/ | ||
| Froggy |
Damn it, I knew I should of googled for something like that. | ||
| Greenlantern |
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| Reepicheep |
Rookies.   | ||
| Greenlantern |
Virgin. | ||
| Swordsman |
Well, after about 3 or 4 days, I finally got it working. Just why it's working I couldn't tell ya. Basically, I gave up on all the stupid configuration files and modules and whatnot, and just started unplugging audio cables. I have 2 sound cards, a newer built in one that I wanted to use, and an old one that I had plugged in just because I payed a fortune for it back in the day and hated to throw it away. Turns out Ubuntu was hellbent on using that old one no matter what I told it to do (and yes the built in card was enabled in the BIOS, and it was detected, and it had everything installed that it needed). I pray to God I never actually have to FIX anything on this system, 'cause it ain't gonna happen.  ~SM | ||
| Glitch |
Sounds like a simple conflict. | ||
| Greenlantern |
Sounds like a simple conflict. His computer or this thread? I lost track.  | ||
| Indybuell |
LolZ! | ||
| Glitch |
His computer or this thread? I said simple. So obviously I'm talking about computers. | ||
| Drfudd |
oh I have to correct the whole mac is unix thing. Actually it uses more BSD code than anything else. Yes BSD is a variation of unix, but it has much less in common with unix, than linux does with unix. Oh and I'm glad you fixed your problem. Ubuntu working is about the easiest to use operating system there is. My wife has a bran new Imac and I barely know how to turn it on let alone use it. I'll stick with linux, its what I'm used to. | ||
| Macdiver |
Which distribution are you using? Some distros are easier to work with than others? I played with some live CD Linux distros for a little while a few months ago. On a ten year old machine those small distros were pretty fast. I could not get the wife used to it though. She was too used to windows. After some convincing, we bought a MAC. We both like it but the learning curve for her is about the same as the Linux she would not try. | ||
| Ironhead1977 |
If Mac would use the KDE gui I would use mac. | ||
| Froggy |
Can't you just reformat the mac and install Linux? |
