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Rde48
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.buell.com/en_us/racing/racing-news/deta il.asp?news_id=1459


East Troy, Wis. -- (Wednesday, July 15, 2009) Buell Motorcycle Company today introduced the 1125RR, a race-use only motorcycle intended for competition in the AMA Pro Racing American Superbike class.

“The 1125RR is designed to give privateer racers a turn-key machine to compete in the American Superbike class in AMA Pro Racing. We want to build on our program that has proven so successful for privateers in the Daytona SportBike class,” said Erik Buell, Chairman and Chief Technical Officer, Buell Motorcycle Company.

The Buell 1125RR features a modified Helicon 1125cc (103mm bore x 67.5mm stroke) liquid-cooled 72-degree V-Twin engine. Power increases come from components including a larger airbox and intake manifold, revised valves and camshafts, a higher compression ratio, titanium exhaust system and other weight-reduced components.

The 1125RR chassis is the standard 1125R design with fuel-in-the-frame, plus a billet axle adjustment system and chain-drive to allow gearing changes. Suspension travel is managed by fully adjustable units, with a Showa 43mm front fork and a remote-reservoir rear shock. A ZTL2 (Zero Torsional Load) eight-piston front caliper is mated with a modified front rotor.

Buell 1125RR features:

* 1125cc (68.7 cid) Helicon Powertrain:
o 4.055 inch (103 mm) bore and 2.658 inch (67.5mm) stroke
* Dual 61mm down-draft fuel-injection throttle bodies
* Titanium exhaust header and mass-centralized muffler
* 6-Spoke cast magnesium racing wheels
o Front: 3.5 inch (88.9mm) x 17 inch (431.8mm)
o Rear: 6 inch (152.4mm) x 17 inch (431.8mm)
* Buell ZTL2 reversed rotor front brake with eight-piston Nissin caliper
* 43mm Showa fully-adjustable inverted forks
* Showa fully-adjustable rear shock with remote reservoir
* Cast-aluminum swingarm machined with billet axle adjustment system
* Center position wheelbase 55.5 inches (1410 mm)


Buell will produce a limited number of 1125RR motorcycles for sale only to licensed professional road racers who will compete in the AMA Pro Racing American Superbike class. U.S. MSRP is $39,995. Orders must be placed through the Buell Race Department and delivered through an authorized Buell motorcycle dealer.

Founded by visionary motorcycle designer and former privateer racer Erik Buell in 1983, Buell Motorcycle Company, a subsidiary of Harley-Davidson, Inc., produces sport motorcycles, motorcycle parts, accessories and apparel, including the 1125R superbike, 1125CR café racer and air-cooled XB-series Ulysses, Firebolt, and Lightning. To learn more about Buell motorcycles, or to locate the dealer nearest you, log onto www.buell.com.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Awesome
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I suspect Mr. Higbee will begin placing considerably better in Superbike events in the very near future.
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pardon my ignorance, but I'm not familiar enough with the 1125R to spot the >$25k worth of differences between it and the RR model.

Anyone care to elaborate on where these RR stats improve over the R or CR?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wheels alone could easily crack $5k, no? Exhaust could be another $2k easy.

Part of what you are probably paying for is factory access... Henry Duga is a bargain at any price : )
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Indybuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=37323

Looks like Tayler Knapp will be on one this weekend. I'll be there to take pics!
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Randlepmcmurphy
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That thing looks sexy. When does Eslick get one?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)





WOOO HOOOO!! NO RICK ROLL!
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm diggin' the tiny tail section.

Looks neat, but I'm also trying to spot the price difference. Cams, airbox, wheels, exhaust, pistons, chain drive... I'm sure the carbon fiber bodywork bumps the sticker, and obvioulsy there's some R&D that won't have nearly as many units to make up those costs on.

I think the coolest thing is that it sounds like every single part that makes this an RR can fitted to any other 1125.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I suspect Eslick has been riding an improved 1125 as a test mule.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That exhaust placement reminds me of a Yamaha R6.
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Liquorwhere
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>An article about the press release including the release....


Here is the press release from Buell regarding their 1125RR, (note second R in designation) a bike not road legal, yet somehow Superbike legal, as per DMG. Isn't it interesting how the Japanese manufacturers are knocked back to Superstock spec this season in Superbike, yet Buell gets to enter a full-on Superbike that isn't even street legal?

As is becoming characteristic with Buell they just can't bear to merely bring a gun to a gunfight, it's always gotta be a Gatling gun (of their own design) to a fist-fight.

Buell Press Release Start:

(July 15) Buell Motorcycle Company today introduced the 1125RR, a race-use only motorcycle intended for competition in the AMA Pro Racing American Superbike class.

"The 1125RR is designed to give privateer racers a turn-key machine to compete in the American Superbike class in AMA Pro Racing. We want to build on our program that has proven so successful for privateers in the Daytona SportBike class," said Erik Buell, Chairman and Chief Technical Officer, Buell Motorcycle Company.

The Buell 1125RR features a modified Helicon 1125cc (103mm bore x 67.5mm stroke) liquid-cooled 72-degree V-Twin engine. Power increases come from components including a larger airbox and intake manifold, revised valves and camshafts, a higher compression ratio, titanium exhaust system and other weight-reduced components.

The 1125RR chassis is the standard 1125R design with fuel-in-the-frame, plus a billet axle adjustment system and chain-drive to allow gearing changes. Suspension travel is managed by fully adjustable units, with a Showa 43mm front fork and a remote-reservoir rear shock. A ZTL2 (Zero Torsional Load) eight-piston front caliper is mated with a modified front rotor.

Buell 1125RR features:
? 1125cc (68.7 cid) Helicon Powertrain:
o 4.055 inch (103 mm) bore and 2.658 inch (67.5mm) stroke
? Dual 61mm down-draft fuel-injection throttle bodies
? Titanium exhaust header and mass-centralized muffler
? 6-Spoke cast magnesium racing wheels
o Front: 3.5 inch (88.9mm) x 17 inch (431.8mm)
o Rear: 6 inch (152.4mm) x 17 inch (431.8mm)
? Buell ZTL2 reversed rotor front brake with eight-piston Nissin caliper
? 43mm Showa fully-adjustable inverted forks
? Showa fully-adjustable rear shock with remote reservoir
? Cast-aluminum swingarm machined with billet axle adjustment system
? Center position wheelbase 55.5 inches (1410 mm)

Buell will produce a limited number of 1125RR motorcycles for sale only to licensed professional road racers who will compete in the AMA Pro Racing American Superbike class. U.S. MSRP is $39,995. Orders must be placed through the Buell Race Department and delivered through an authorized Buell motorcycle dealer.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Jul/090715d.ht m
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>I suspect Eslick has been riding an improved 1125 as a test mule.I suspect Eslick has been riding an improved 1125 as a test mule.

That would be in accurate. Perhaps later.

There's a lot to be done and a very carefully crafted plan to carry it out.

I'd suggest waiting until details are out to make any final judgements on the price.

But that's just me . . . my co-worker just bought one of those $70,000+ Ducati and I confess I'm struggling to find the $55,000K WITH the facts.

: )
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court, look at the parts list of the 1125RR. You're going to tell me none of those things are currently on Eslick's bike? I saw with my own eyes at Daytona things such a an aftermarket exhaust and magnesium racing wheels.
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Schmitty
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The idiots at Superbike Planet are already all over this one!

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Jul/090715d.ht m

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Jul/090715e.ht m

Schmitty
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well now I know what I'll be doing with my tax return this winter.























Gettin a few of those new logo decals for my scoops.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ferris, the mag wheels have been around since the XBRR days. Also it looks like Danny's exhaust is different based on the limited photos. Also about the wheels, the rear is different looking.
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Xb9er
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I knew I shouldnt have paid my truck off last month.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not saying it's the exact bike. I'm saying, I wouldnt doubt his bike has been used as a test mule to prove some of these things on the track. His bike is not stock.
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"AMA Pro American Superbike motorcycles must be street certified for use in the United States and be available at the time of competition from U.S. retail dealers. There must be sufficient quantity available such that any person wanting to buy one for racing purposes can do so in a timely fashion"


Hmmm.... so the question is the 1125RR simply a "race-modified" 1125R or is it a different motorcycle all together.
Apparently none of the modifications that make 1125R into an 1125RR are against the rules.

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Indy_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I suspect the major differences are UNDER the fairing. And I'm not talking about the exhaust.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Isn't it interesting how the Japanese manufacturers are knocked back to Superstock spec this season in Superbike, yet Buell gets to enter a full-on Superbike that isn't even street legal?

How do we know Buell isn't going to introduce a street bike based on the RR in a week or two?
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

RR HP gains were made with different cams and intakes. Lighter wheels don't add HP. Danny's motor is stock, though the bike as a whole obviously is not. I don't see anything to suggest that it has been a test mule for superbike. It wouldn't pass tech. And if it did pass tech, that's not testing, that's smart racing.
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where in the AMA rulebook does it say you can't buy a race ready, class legal superbike from a dealer/the factory??

All Buell is doing is taking a stock bike from their line and performing the mods that the racer would need to do to. That's it!! ALL the parts on the bike are available to ANY licensed racer. There are no secret, unobtainium parts..

Yamakawazukionda could do the same thing, but they choose not to. Besides, how dare some lowly racer (besides the select few) have access to yamakawazukionda "factory" parts.....
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>You're going to tell me none of those things are currently on Eslick's bike?

Eslick's bike is perfectly legal (in fact, damn near showroom) for the class it is in.

Testing occurred by other people, in other places. Some parts, consistent with them being legal in the Daytona Sport Bike Class, may have run on his bikes.

I do not know one way or the other.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lighter wheels don't add HP

No, it doesnt but it does improve the power to weight ratio.

There is no HP requirement in the AMA rules, at least none that I could find. If someone can find info to the contrary, I'd be interested.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

telling that the press dept doesnt care for the other end of the spectrum, I guess Buell doesnt build the Blast ...

Founded by visionary motorcycle designer and former privateer racer Erik Buell in 1983, Buell Motorcycle Company, a subsidiary of Harley-Davidson, Inc., produces sport motorcycles, motorcycle parts, accessories and apparel, including the 1125R superbike, 1125CR café racer and air-cooled XB-series Ulysses, Firebolt, and Lightning. To learn more about Buell motorcycles, or to locate the dealer nearest you, log onto www.buell.com.
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Bott
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So Bostrom's R-1 once had headlights and such? Somehow I just don't believe so. The RR seems to be JUST like the others. BASED ON the 1125R streetbike. Maybe I'm too old to understand, but I just dont really see what the difference is between the RR's similarity to our bikes, and Bostrom's bike to your neighborhood dudes R-1.
(I use Bostrom as an example,cuz we all KNOW Mladin's bikes were just bought off a showroom floor, and stripped of the lights and sidestand)
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Fast1075
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If Buell introduced a "street" RR...it would need to be detuned....for reliability purposes if for no other reason....I heard rumors of well over 200hp for the race engine....if so, it might need refreshing a little more often than most people would be willing to do ; )

Note: the rumor mentioned above is completely unsubstantiated and may be pure baloney...take it however you will.
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Bott
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess I'm just saying it sounds like a "name game" If the bike had only one R ,would there be such hoopla?Kudos to Buell for using the rules, and building a bike that fits them.Seems the current R-1 factory Superbikes should be called an RR-1,GSXRR,etc.
Seems this is gonna get VERY interesting.Imagine for a minute if the Buell WINS a Superbike Race this month? Oh Lord--the whining will be outragious..(again)
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