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Phatkidwit1eye
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 07:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

(First I would like too Start this thread out by handing every one a stick.)

OK....(Deep breath)
I'm rather confused at the moment, Whats with the part numbers in the back of the Buell manual? I was trying too find the sprocket locking link and when I gave the part number too the HD guy he had no clue what I was talking about. I'm assuming that the part number changed, but none-the-less I would think someone would know what I was talking about it's just a chunk of metal. So as usual I got the brush off and was left too figure out if this part actually exists or if I'm just crazy and seeing things.

Finally I called an after market store and they too as well wasn't too sure what was up with the part number. Here's the weird part though, He actually put me on hold and asked a few people about what I was looking for and actually made an honest effort too help me. Not only was I happy he helped me. I also dropped another 100 bucks on stuff I didn't need just because I felt this place was good enough too have my hard earned money. I know that HD could care less about about one person,but HD will never see another piece of my "I need motorcycle stuff money". Sure I might have too go back and buy some random part but that doesn't compare too the amount of money I have and will spend on cloths and other such things.
Also, are the Harley primary gaskets way better than all other after market gaskets? I was just wondering b/c I bought one a while back from HD and it cost me 20 dollars and when I bought one today at the other place it was only 4 dollars.

Also I could have sworn that someone was talking about a metal primary gasket. I asked around but every one seemed too think I was on crack. So I was just wondering if it does exist or if in fact I am on crack?

I know many of you might not think this is that big of deal, but I have only been involved with HD/Buell personally for about a year and a half now and every time I go back I just get more and more frustrated.
Sorry for the rant. Oh...hope you didn't forget about the sticks I passed out
(Drags out dead horse)

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Seeeu911
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 07:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Three words for you man: : )

1. American Sport bike

2. Dave S

3. Buckingfubba
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

donn
there ain't no "g" in there. Gosh darn Island boy and your proper english...come on brudder your talkin about your hillbilly brother.
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Seeeu911
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love you man..christ your'e in good company then cause I can't spell EB's name either...
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

aaaahhhhh your a sweetie ain't ya.....
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My local Harley Shop did not know the metal gasket existed either.

A bit of patience goes a long way with these guys, they like me as I always check this board first then bring in a part number for my Buell.

If I was in the US Dave S and Bubba would be getting all my business but I kinda get raped when shit is sent across the border. Therefore, I stick to my local retailer in that hopes that some day they will carry the Buell Product.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What it an HD/Buell dealership or a Harley-only shop? A Harley-only shop will not be able to help you with Buell parts.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My local Buell-Harley shop just lets me pick the parts out of the book. They had to order jets! I can't believe I'm the only one in the area that actually jets his own carb.

Buy the parts manual! It's relatively cheap and shows blowup drawings with part #'s. Between the 2 manuals you get a good idea how it all fits, they complement each other well.

edited by aesquire on February 03, 2004
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Fullpower
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

beware of fat kids with one eye on crack. a well known bad combination.
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Fullpower
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

beware of fat kids with one eye on crack. a well known dangerous combination.
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Fullpower
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well that was strange...ron sorry you get the "dumb looks are free" treatment at yer local boutique. that is really bad if they cant even deal with a genuine motor company part number.
give daves or brian a call, they can fix you up. good luck, dean
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake,

My Harley ONLY retailer gets me my Buell parts so long as I can give them a part number.

Hell, they can even order me a bike if I want it!!!

Last Week I could have had a 2003 XB9r off the Demo Truck for about $7,500.00 Canadian!!!!It had 19,000km on it and came with full warranty. They also had access to an XB9s for $9,000.00 with 6000km and a XB9r with 600km for $11,000.00 Canadian.

I should have picked one up, but there is always next January and I may luck into a XB12
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02buells3t
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As I said in another thread, if you own a tuber try to get an older manual, either "off the shelf" (NOS) at the dealer or via e-Bay or it's ilk. The newer printings of the parts manuals for the tubers are NHA (Next Highest Assembly) - they no longer break down into every little part. There is no part number for the plastic clips on the headlights for the S3T's anymore, the manual only gives a part number for the entire headlight assembly.

Just a heads up. Glad I have the older printing of the manual...

edited by 02BuellS3T on February 03, 2004
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Al_lighton
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks, Donn!
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Phatkidwit1eye
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 04:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I do try too be patient with them when it comes too ordering parts. Even though some parts are different, but some of the parts are widely used. Like the time I had too explain what a shift drum & detent plate looked like. I dunno, maybe I'm expecting too much. All I want is too go into the store and find someone who knows more about what I'm looking for or doing than I do. I just hate that feeling that I just bought "X" amount of parts and I'm not even sure if they are the right ones. For the most part the customer service isn't too bad if I'm wondering around the Buell shelf (lol..thats right I said shelf) and they help me find the right sized shirt, but if I wanna talk shop most of the time they just scratch there heads. Thank Goodness this site is here or I would be up shyt creek with out a paddle.
So does any one know the part number for the metal primary gasket?
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Kevyn
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know about the rest of you, but my desire to 'visit' HD dealers is diminished by the new 'boutique' atmosphere. I do not need boutique items to keep my bikes running or to ride comfortably. My bikes are not bling-bling carriers or parking lot space holders. I certainly don't want to be patronized by some hottie hoping I'll buy a road barge because she's got the best flirt goin'

I expect a Buell dealership, whether or not they sell HD's, to have knowledge about parts, bikes and history and a technical staff with empathy for Buells---the same way it used to be in HD shops before they were boutiqued...

...so much for MY expectations...
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Budo
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is new about the 'boutique' atmosphere. HD dealerships have been that way for awhile. I have been in several HD dealerships that did not have any bikes, but they had plenty of clothes, jewlery, and other do-dads.
If you are looking for parts or advice I had great luck with Modesto. They bailed me out on several occasions. Modesto Buell 209-578-1330
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lincoln Nebraska has a "Harley shop" in a mall, the bikes are just for show. It's a "lifestyle" shop. lol

The real shop, Frontier H-D Buell, was kind enough to computer search for obsolete parts for me, even though the Buell inventory was minute.
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Nevco1
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hal's HD/BMC had a "lifestyle" shop in the Brookfield Square Mall in the Milwaukee area for a year. Their In/Out timing was perfect as the lease was up after the 100th Anniversary Celebration.

They really capitalized on the HomeTown Harley Fever. Sold tons of HD clothing prior to the 100th to folks that would never go into a dealership. Don't know what the impact was for Hal's bottom line, but I do know that virtually everything they do turns to gold.

Boston Store, one of the mall's anchor department stores is still trying to blow out their HD Licensed apparel and Hal's is just chuggin' along profitable as ever without the extra overhead.

Hal's had a Harley and a Buell in the window and referred the Lookie Lew's to the Dealership which is about a mile away.

Subjectively, a lifestyles mall store can increase your sales if the local market is ripe for the picking like Milwaukee was before during and after the 100th, but I sure wouldn't want to venture a guess at the ROI at the end of the lease without doing a detailed marketing plan upfront. LOL
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Seeeu911
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The HD Dealer show was in Orlando recently...I heard EB was going to visit the Orlando HD/Buell store....I called up trying to see if he was actually at the store yet and the receptionist when I asked her if Erik Buell had arrived yet said..." Erik Buell...I'm not familiar with that name.." I literally dropped the phone in shock.
But she is very pretty person who fits the Boutique image perfectly. Good thing for me Bob and Eric and Duncan and Nick still love and help with Buell stuff there.
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Phatkidwit1eye
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aesquire, Here is the thing with Omaha's Hd/Buell Dealership's. We have three to choose from. All of them except one are about a 30 minute to about an hour long drive too get to. The closest one is the worst one. They are a HD/Buell Dealership ,but here is the catch...They only sell Blast's. Frontier Harley Davidson is pretty decent they have there own Hog club and a fairly nice store but its about an hour trip too get there. I had my recall work done there and they did a good job , but I almost killed the mechanic. I had it done in the middle of winter. So for what ever reason the guy that was bringing my bike around started it up too drive it around. We all know our bikes are a bit grouchy too start in the cold soo you have too baby the throttle a lil bit. I know the sound of my bike and I heard him start it. So of course it died after a few sec's so instead of gently holding the throttle a lil bit open, he revs the ever living crap out of my cold bike in the dead of winter. Even in the summer I let my bike warm up a bit. As for the other HD shop it's rather annoying too go into. The place is owned by a guy who owns a really big car dealership. So of course the salesmen that they have in the place aren't big bike nuts most of them are pushy car salesmen. I guess im a bit too picky but it just seems weird too me too go into a store that was bought out of jumping on the Harley cash cow instead of having a passion for bikes and the life style.

...lol...Although nothing will beat the time that I went into this motorsports place that sells all the foreign bikes. I was looking at Kaw's new z1000 and one of the Salesmen came up too me and instead of saying something about the bike he ask's me "Do you like too do wheelies?"

For the most part I try too stay away from big Dealerships and I really try too support the local independent shops. Although I really would like too take a trip too Iowa and see Daves place
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Brucelee
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When we find a HD dealer that likes and understands Buells, candidly, we just don't believe it!

Great bike, horrible distribution and support (on average!).

My own dealer is OK. Not bad on tech, knows or cares nothing about the bike.

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Dynarider
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess im a bit too picky but it just seems weird too me too go into a store that was bought out of jumping on the Harley cash cow instead of having a passion for bikes and the life style.

Phatkid, although a lot of the store owners may be motorcycle enthusiasts, you have to remember that their first & primary objective is making money. Also just to get a dealership you either have had to had it in the family for a long time now, or you need to be able to bankroll about $2 million on the low end. These guys are not in business to make friends & sit around jawing with you all day, they are in it for the money.

Look at it this way, if you had the means to get into a business that maybe you really didnt care about 100% but you knew you would make a mountain of money off of it & be able to retire very young..would you do it, or would you pass?
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Hardluckxb
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do what you love and the money will follow. Be passionate and put your heart and soul into whatever you choose to do and it will be far more rewarding than monetary returns.
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Dynarider
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do what you love and the money will follow. Be passionate and put your heart and soul into whatever you choose to do and it will be far more rewarding than monetary returns.

Cute little speech. Kinda useless in the real world most of the time tho. Kinda hard to be rewarded when you have bill collectors calling you. Give me the big fat $$$$ & I can reward myself. I had a job a long time ago that I loved. Designing & fabricating electrical switchboards. Really enjoyed it a lot but the money just wasnt there at the time. Had to support my wife & 2 kids & that ole passionate rewarding job just wasnt pulling its weight. So you do what you have to in order to make ends meet & get ahead.

Now if you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth then none of the above applies.
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Hardluckxb
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you are truly passionate about something you can make it work. It just requires motivation and commitment. I find it much easier to commit to something I care about. I would rather work 12-14 hours a day doing something I believe in than 8 hours a day doing something for the money. Having goals and aspirations beyond a paycheck is more respectable than rewarding myself.
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Phatkidwit1eye
Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I understand where your coming form Dyna, In all honesty even if they didn't give a rats ass about motorcycles or the life style of being a motorcyclist. For all the money people spend, AT THE LEAST tell me enough bullshyt too believe that they do. All I would ask for would be just an honest effort at helping me.
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It happens in a lot of dealerships, not just HD ones. Although I have never had it happen in a furniture store, they will pester you, lie to you, tell you whatever you want to hear: D

One of the worst cases I experienced at a bike dealership was in Libertyville Il at Banzai motorsports. At the time they sold Honda, kawis, & Ducatis. The wife & I went in & looked around, we sat on all the Duc models & honestly spent 35-40 minutes in the store with not 1 person approaching us. We even walked right past the small area with the salesmans offices several times & they definitely saw us, but for some reason they obviously didnt want to sell any bikes that day & I am sure as hell not going to beg them to take my money.

Now that place can kiss my ass & I will not spend 1 dime there.
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Daves
Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Phatkid,
Come up on the 28th for the Chili cookoff.

And/or come up on the weekend of the 24/25th of April for the Buell Bash/BattleTrax weekend.

Meet us at the track day at MAM on the 19th of April. You can sign up with me over the phone!


Ride to the edge!
Dave
Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center)
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Coppertop
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Phatkid,

Better yet ride with me to Waterloo for the Battletrax. My better half rode with me to B-trax last year. But the day was too long for her to handle. 4.5 hrs highway + 4 hrs. B-trax + 5 hrs highway smoked her.

We need to hook up in town anyway.

Oh yeah BTW, when Dillon's opened up last summer I stopped in to check out their Buell stuff. They had an XB9S on the floor with a charcoal canister on it. So, I walked up to one of the car salesman and pointed it out. He says 'Huh that is funny we just got that in.'. I went back a couple weeks later, and they still hadn't taken that canister off. So, someone is gonna buy a choked up lightning because these guys have no clue.
At least we still have Dave close by.

Chris
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Bomber
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna -- the roof fell in on Banzai (literally) one night last spring (early summer?) after a long seires of rainy days . . . . no one hurt, as it was after hours.

they no longer there, so you won't have to avoid them (grin)
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Dynarider
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wouldnt miss them anyways Bomber.
I will usually hit Neilsens about once a month or so just to look around. Seems like their selection has gotten smaller tho. That & they are real cramped for space.
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Captainkirk
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, Dyna,
I went in to Banzai and actually got to talk to a salesman. When I told him I was looking at Buells, he got right proper horrified and told me all about how bad they were (the exhaust even exits onto the rear tire!!!!!!!!!). Right then and there I knew I had to have one. The bad news; I heard they've moved & reopened elsewhere. Can't win 'em all.........................
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Nevco1
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna/Bomber...Let me know if you are ever planning a day to hit some of the ChicagoLand dealerships. I would really like to tag along.

I have a suspicion that they are much better stocked (both bikes and accessories) than the dealers around here. HD/BMC dealers excluded. At least that is the impression I get from the ads in the Cycle Trader type publications.
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