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Greenlantern
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Uh oh...

http://www.onthethrottle.tv/
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Greene, that post race interview was comical.

Oh My !!...their panties are in a bunch..."Hacking, what's it gonna take to beat the Buell?"

The rules limit horsepower to 140 hp and the bikes are put on the dynamometer immediately following the race.

If that is true then the word needs to be spread far and wide. Eslick should state this fact the next time he's up on the podium. These lies and half-truths should not be allowed to stand or it risks tarnishing future wins in the eyes of the public, who for the most part, don't know any better.
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Court
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kids
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Gunut75
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think Hacking is pissed cuz he had to shift more!


I think it's the operator.........NOT THE MACHINE!!!


I KNOW I'm happy with the results!!!!!!
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just to clarify - there are WEIGHT restrictions in Daytona Sportbike, not HP. HP is limited by component homologation in allowable engine modifications.

Some light reading - recommending the 2009 rules:


2009 AMA Roadracing Rulebook

(copied/pasted from Daytona Sportbike - Section 3)

3.2 Weight
a. Minimum weight: Inline 4 cylinders 365lbs. 3 cylinders 375 lbs. 2 cylinders 385lbs.
b. Compliance with the minimum weight will be determined by weighing the machine in the exact condition in which the machine finishes any competition activity (qualifying or race) without the addition of fluids or other items of any kind.

3.13 Post-Qualifying and Post-Race Tech
a. Immediately following each qualifying session or race, the top three finishers plus other motorcycles chosen at random at the discretion of AMA Pro Racing will be secured for inspection by AMA Pro Racing staff members.
b. Motorcycle weights will be checked immediately following qualifying or races, in the same condition in which they finish the activity.
c. No fluid and/or any other item(s) may be added to the motorcycle prior to the determination of weight.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

a. Minimum weight: Inline 4 cylinders 365lbs. 3 cylinders 375 lbs. 2 cylinders 385lbs.




So:

inline four (130 HP @ 365 lbs): .34 HP / LB
Triple (130 HP @ 375 lbs): .34 HP / LB
Twin (140 HP @ 375 lbs): .37 HP / LB

If the inline fours are really only making 130 HP (a big if), then the twins have a slight advantage. Except that the 1125 is (rumor has it) not slimmed down to that 375 limit. So it may actually be at a measurable "power versus weight" disadvantage.

If somebody wants to put some work into that triumph motor, it could do well also...
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Reepi:

It's actually 385 lbs for a twin. So that makes it .36 HP /LB.

Not trying to nitpick you, but if we want to be accurate and fair here......
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 03:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That said, Eslick, if he is going to continue winning, could be a little more graceful winner.

That's called youthful exuberance and I thought he handled himself perfectly--esp. with that prick Hacking cleaning his leathers and banging the mic around during Danny's portion. Hacking is a complete embarrassment to the sport. At least Mladin has the goods to back up his arrogance.

Danny absolutely dominated the race on Saturday, with a lead that I believe was in the 7 second range for a while and would have been in the 5 second range if he didn't pull off that monster wheelie down the entire front straight. That kid is pure class.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's actually 385 lbs for a twin. So that makes it .36 HP /LB.

That's the minimum weight a twin can weigh. The Buell, fueled, weighs upwards of 410-420 lbs based on a dry weight of 375 and 40 lbs worth of gas.
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